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Wed May 15, 2013, 12:33 AM May 2013

The Few, the Proud, the Tortoises: Marines Protect Endangered Species

TWENTYNINE PALMS, Calif.—U.S. Marines are taught to overcome obstacles with a minimum of help. But when some Marines prepared to charge a hill in a training exercise here a few months ago, they were forced to halt and radio the one man who could help them advance: Brian Henen, turtle expert.

The troops were "running up the hill and firing at targets," Mr. Henen said. "Some of the tortoises like the hill also. The Marines don't want to hurt the tortoise, so they call us and we go in and move it." Mr. Henen, who has a doctorate in biology, is part of a little-known army of biologists and other scientists who manage the Mojave desert tortoise and about 420 other threatened and endangered species on about 28 million acres of federally managed military land.

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Mr. Henen often hustles out to remote parts of the Mojave Desert to make sure the threatened desert tortoise, which can weigh 10 pounds and live to be more than 50 years old, isn't frightened by charging troops. "When they get scared, they pee themselves," Mr. Henen said, referring to the tortoises. Since tortoises can go two years between drinks of water, an unplanned micturition can cause dehydration and even death. So Mr. Henen sometimes demonstrates to troops how he soaks the reptiles in a pool until they drink enough water to plod on with their lives.

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Congress ordered the Defense Department to protect the flora and fauna on its lands under the 1960 Sikes Act. Today, the military works with agencies like the Fish and Wildlife Service, a bureau of the Interior Department, to search for and protect animals, plants and archaeological sites on its bases.

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Last year, the Department of Defense spent nearly $70 million on threatened and endangered species management and conservation, including $16.5 million on the red-cockaded woodpecker and just under $6 million on the desert tortoise. The outlays let biologists survey habitats, tag and track animals, build hatcheries and provide ecological training to thousands of troops.

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The Few, the Proud, the Tortoises: Marines Protect Endangered Species (Original Post) question everything May 2013 OP
It was pretty funny sarisataka May 2013 #1
Were you not allowed to pick it and move it over? question everything May 2013 #2
Legally, no. premium May 2013 #3
Interesting. Thank you for the insight. question everything May 2013 #4
I doubt it, premium May 2013 #5
Probably question everything May 2013 #8
Probably on of these, premium May 2013 #9
Forbidden sarisataka May 2013 #7
You are correct question everything May 2013 #10
in before badly-timed "squid" joke Blue_Tires May 2013 #6

sarisataka

(18,483 posts)
1. It was pretty funny
Wed May 15, 2013, 12:40 AM
May 2013

when we came across one of those bloody tortoises. Everything would go full stop and a perimeter would be set up 100 yrds around it so it would get where it was going unmolested. Tortoises move very slowly...

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2. Were you not allowed to pick it and move it over?
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:42 PM
May 2013

When I lived in Florida - on the West Coast - it would be quite common to see motorists stop in the middle of the road and help a tortoise crossing the road by lifting and carrying it.

 

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3. Legally, no.
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:50 PM
May 2013

I once stopped a guy who was getting ready to grab a Desert Tortoise and move it, told him that he could be ticketed for disturbing an endangered species, told him I thought it was a ridiculous law, but if I saw it happen, I was bound by law to ticket him, but if I didn't see it happen, then, as far as I was concerned, it didn't happen.

I picked the critter up and moved it to the side of the road and thanked the guy for his concern.

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4. Interesting. Thank you for the insight.
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:54 PM
May 2013

Wonder whether this was true for the tortoise in Florida. Had it not be moved it could have been hit by a car.

 

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5. I doubt it,
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:56 PM
May 2013

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unless it was a Desert Tortoise, don't know if that species of turtles are in FL..

Did it look anything like this?

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8. Probably
Wed May 15, 2013, 03:16 PM
May 2013

Florida tortoises (or turtles, don't know the difference) are quite large and are very far from the desert. All along the coasts - Gulf and Atlantic in the South - there are volunteers who make sure that once the eggs that were buried in the sand hatch, that the young ones can make it safely to the water.

 

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9. Probably on of these,
Wed May 15, 2013, 03:23 PM
May 2013


Sea Turtles, I don't believe that FL. has any Desert Tortoises.

I remember watching a segment on the History Channel on FL's sea turtles, how they laid their eggs, how the little ones would hatch and make their way to the Atlantic, and how they had to run the gauntlet of predators just waiting for them.
Really fascinating stuff.

sarisataka

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7. Forbidden
Wed May 15, 2013, 02:59 PM
May 2013

lifting them can trigger the startle reflex and make them pee. A couple of times we had orders to air medivac any tortoise if it had been startled.

They are not a routine problem. They are rare and only in a small area of a very large training area

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10. You are correct
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:08 PM
May 2013

Even mentioned in the OP how startling and peeing can dehydrate them and may cause them to die.

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