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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
Wed May 15, 2013, 03:19 PM May 2013

Not a joke. Billion-year-old water found in Ontario, potentially contains life

It’s older than cavemen. It predates the dinosaurs. And it just might contain clues to the possibility of life on Mars.

A team of U.K.-Canadian scientists have discovered billion-year-old water deep underground in an Ontario mine and, according to their research published in the journal Nature on Wednesday, they think it might actually contain life.

“We've found an interconnected fluid system in the deep Canadian crystalline basement that is billions of years old, and capable of supporting life,” University of Manchester professor Chris Ballentine said in a news release. “Our finding is of huge interest to researchers who want to understand how microbes evolve in isolation, and is central to the whole question of the origin of life, the sustainability of life, and life in extreme environments and on other planets.”

Researchers from the universities of Manchester, Lancaster, Toronto and McMaster analyzed water pouring out of boreholes 2.4 kilometres underground near Timmins, Ontario.


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/billion-year-old-water-found-in-ontario-potentially-contains-life-1.1282836#ixzz2TOHeOQY5

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Not a joke. Billion-year-old water found in Ontario, potentially contains life (Original Post) snagglepuss May 2013 OP
Maybe it was the seed bank so the world could be started anew liberal N proud May 2013 #1
Oh, dear. I think I saw this episode on X-files. Baitball Blogger May 2013 #2
... Chakab May 2013 #21
Thus begins another sequel to Jurassic Park lpbk2713 May 2013 #3
I smell a new premium vodka! nt Poll_Blind May 2013 #4
DUzy ^^ phantom power May 2013 #5
Nope, this is in Canada. longship May 2013 #6
Tell that to Dan Aykroyd: Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #19
Once you distill it, the character of the water is irrelevant. longship May 2013 #22
WIN! One of the best DUZY's EVER KittyWampus May 2013 #29
The question is can I make beer from it? Initech May 2013 #7
Have they sampled it yet? Jenoch May 2013 #8
You can make water today knightmaar May 2013 #14
I made water about half an hour ago. Orrex May 2013 #18
hehe lumpy May 2013 #20
Thank you for that wee glimpse into your life. Arugula Latte May 2013 #24
Good question. I don't know the answer but it's agood question. snagglepuss May 2013 #28
mmm.. G_j May 2013 #9
Interesting...but it must be a little stale. Auntie Bush May 2013 #10
What did they find in Lake Vostok? Does anyone know? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #11
There is some truth to this: LeftInTX May 2013 #12
They just broke with their latest finding ten minutes ago. Ikonoklast May 2013 #15
"Potentially"... I hope it does! Hekate May 2013 #13
I hope they are extra careful when handling applegrove May 2013 #16
Shouldn't it be "water uncontaminated for 1 billion years found"..? LeftinOH May 2013 #17
No it isn't. Megalo_Man May 2013 #27
Very interesting but it will be hard to prove it's uncontaminated... Locut0s May 2013 #23
Proof of creationism chuckrocks May 2013 #25
Doesn't the Sahara have acquifers with rain water millions of years old? Larkspur May 2013 #26

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
1. Maybe it was the seed bank so the world could be started anew
Wed May 15, 2013, 03:22 PM
May 2013

And now man has gone and found it and destroyed that too.

Figures.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Nope, this is in Canada.
Wed May 15, 2013, 03:41 PM
May 2013

It would have to be beer.

Let me buy ya a beer, eh?


They could call it Pre-Cambrian Ale. (Well, somehow Mesoproterozoic Stout just doesn't trip off the tongue.)

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
8. Have they sampled it yet?
Wed May 15, 2013, 03:49 PM
May 2013

If so, it is now contaminated.

When I first read the headline it occurred to me, "isn't ALL water over a billion years old"?

knightmaar

(748 posts)
14. You can make water today
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:08 PM
May 2013

Hydrogen and Oxygen and what not.

As long as the water is pouring out of the holes, then it's uncontaminated up to the exit point. I'm guessing that they got its age from the balance of isotopes in the minerals that are in it.

Hard to say, since the article doesn't discuss it.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
9. mmm..
Wed May 15, 2013, 03:51 PM
May 2013

A nourishing cocktail containing hydrogen, methane and Noble gases? I don't know about this billion year old water harboring life forms. I would believe sulfur, but Noble gases are known for their inertness.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
11. What did they find in Lake Vostok? Does anyone know?
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:02 PM
May 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Vostok

According to wikipedia, the jury's still out. The shit about the kerosene contaminants, however, make me seriously question the Russian team's repeated assurances that they're not going to fuck up the water down there.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
12. There is some truth to this:
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:04 PM
May 2013

There is a region in Canada where rocks are billions of years old. If the water has been trapped that long, it could hold secrets about earth during that time.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
15. They just broke with their latest finding ten minutes ago.
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:13 PM
May 2013

According to a joint press release by the researchers and universities involved:

"The ancient water that we have discovered located deep in Pre-Cambrain rocks under Northern Ontario has been found to definitely be...wet."

Hekate

(90,632 posts)
13. "Potentially"... I hope it does!
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:04 PM
May 2013
“Our Canadian colleagues are trying to find out IF the water contains life right now,”

Given the environments in which life has been found, and given the depths at which even complex life-forms have been found, I'd say this is a good bet. I believe that those who say the entire Earth is alive are right.

LeftinOH

(5,353 posts)
17. Shouldn't it be "water uncontaminated for 1 billion years found"..?
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:21 PM
May 2013

All water on Earth is the same age.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
23. Very interesting but it will be hard to prove it's uncontaminated...
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:58 PM
May 2013

And even harder to prove that the life is descended from that a billion years old without surface contact/contamination.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
26. Doesn't the Sahara have acquifers with rain water millions of years old?
Wed May 15, 2013, 06:10 PM
May 2013

This water is used today to irrigate crops and water livestock in Northern Africa.

The only problem I have with the billion year old water is did it seep into the mine from above or is the rock layer surrounding the water impenetrable by surface water seepage? Also, how old is the mine? Isn't water sometimes used to cool drill bits used to drill into the mine walls?

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