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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:20 PM May 2013

Maryland governor signs nation's most comprehensive firearm legislation. NRA backs down.

Gov. Martin O'Malley on Thursday signed a gun-control bill that is among the country's most sweeping legislative responses to the December mass shooting in Newtown, Conn.

The law bans the sale of assault-style rifles, including the AR-15 used in the Newtown killing of six educators and 20 first- and second-graders. The law limits gun ownership for people with mental illness, outlaws the sale of high-capacity magazines and establishes the nation's first new handgun licensing scheme in two decades.

Maryland will join five other states in requiring such licenses, a move that O'Malley said "will substantially lower gun deaths."

(snip)

Sen. President Thomas V. Mike Miller called the gun bill "common sense," and he offered the NRA's unwillingness to back the petition drive as evidence of the law's broad public support.

"They know if this bill went to the people, it would overwhelmingly pass," Miller said.

House Speaker Michael E. Busch said the law could be a model for the rest of the country.

Read More: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/blog/bs-md-gun-bill-signed-20130516,0,7526263.story

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Maryland governor signs nation's most comprehensive firearm legislation. NRA backs down. (Original Post) Robb May 2013 OP
one of the many reasons shedevil69taz May 2013 #1
This makes you want to leave Maryland? Chan790 May 2013 #4
Seriously, just what will we do with fewer gun deaths and the accompanying stories on the evening EOTE May 2013 #13
I imagine the state will soldier on without you ... and happily. 11 Bravo May 2013 #14
You're welcome to come to this glowing red pile, Arkansas. sinkingfeeling May 2013 #19
Oh poor you. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #20
Couldn't agree more. fwm May 2013 #22
Did you perhaps mistake DU for FR? eom BlueMTexpat May 2013 #28
Bye elleng May 2013 #31
That reminds me, I just got some new 30rd AR15 mags rl6214 May 2013 #2
And you wonder why sane people don't trust gun owners. baldguy May 2013 #11
Don't trust me to send some mags with my son? rl6214 May 2013 #26
You can't trusted to follow a simple law that will preserve innocent lives. baldguy May 2013 #29
What can't I be trusted with? rl6214 May 2013 #32
If you send them to Maryland you'd be breaking the law. baldguy May 2013 #33
Actually it's perfectly legal to send them to MD rl6214 May 2013 #34
Per the OP: "...outlaws the sale of high-capacity magazines..." baldguy May 2013 #35
You need to do a little bit of research before posting rl6214 May 2013 #37
"illegal weapons smuggling ring: snooper2 May 2013 #38
Let us know if he tries to take them onto the grounds of the USNA without clearance. 11 Bravo May 2013 #16
Why would he possibly want to take them on to the grounds of the academy. rl6214 May 2013 #27
Has clearance for WHAT? To carry 30 round mags onto the USNA grounds? Bullshit! 11 Bravo May 2013 #30
He may say it's a model for the rest of the nation, premium May 2013 #3
For some reason, I'm reminded of a line from the movie Beautiful Creatures Electric Monk May 2013 #6
Never saw that movie, premium May 2013 #7
It'll never pass in Texas, that's for sure derby378 May 2013 #15
Plus it's close to Hawaii. Robb May 2013 #17
So AR's will have a differently shaped grip to be sold in Maryland Recursion May 2013 #5
Good for you! thucythucy May 2013 #23
Hey, I'm a pragmatist Recursion May 2013 #24
And I just now posted on an OP you posted thucythucy May 2013 #25
Good for them. Colorado also JimDandy May 2013 #8
And Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Washington State... Robb May 2013 #9
Excellent! JimDandy May 2013 #10
The NRA - like every extremist RW front group - knows it's on the wrong side of history. baldguy May 2013 #12
Congratulations, Maryland! sinkingfeeling May 2013 #18
So proud of my home state. Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #21
Great news marions ghost May 2013 #36
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
4. This makes you want to leave Maryland?
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:37 PM
May 2013

It's almost enough to make me want to stay...and I hate it here. I miss Brooklyn.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
13. Seriously, just what will we do with fewer gun deaths and the accompanying stories on the evening
Thu May 16, 2013, 05:37 PM
May 2013

news? A less murdery Maryland is not one I want to be part of.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
20. Oh poor you.
Fri May 17, 2013, 09:57 AM
May 2013

Former Marylander here, living in Florida now.

While I love Florida for its weather and climate, I would do anything to have Maryland's elected officials over the complete jokers up in Tallahassee.

Especially Governor O'Malley over the medicare fraud we have for a governor here.

You don't know how lucky you are. Unless you are so driven by your love for an inanimate object.

fwm

(12 posts)
22. Couldn't agree more.
Fri May 17, 2013, 10:52 AM
May 2013

I used to love living in Tallahassee until Jeb Bush was elected. Then we got a brief respite with Charlie Crist who was at least a reasonable Republican. Since Scott got in, it's been all downhill or as they say 'a tropical depression'.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
2. That reminds me, I just got some new 30rd AR15 mags
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:34 PM
May 2013

I need to send some to my naval officer son up in Annapolis.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
26. Don't trust me to send some mags with my son?
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:16 PM
May 2013

Must be awefull that you are soooo distrustful that you wouldn't even trust your own children. I trust mine with my life.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
29. You can't trusted to follow a simple law that will preserve innocent lives.
Fri May 17, 2013, 04:24 PM
May 2013

And if your son is in on your crimes, he can't be trusted either.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
32. What can't I be trusted with?
Sun May 19, 2013, 12:50 AM
May 2013

I live in Texas, 30rd mags are completely legal in Texas. My sons residence on record with the military is in Texas. Perfectly legal for me to give the mags to him and perfectly legal for him to own them.

Keep trying.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
33. If you send them to Maryland you'd be breaking the law.
Sun May 19, 2013, 12:56 AM
May 2013

You can't be trusted to own a gun if you can't act responsibly and follow the laws regarding them.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
34. Actually it's perfectly legal to send them to MD
Sun May 19, 2013, 01:01 AM
May 2013

Take them apart and send them as replacement parts. It's just a box full of springs and floor plates and mag cases. Perfectly legal even in the highly controlled state of California.

Try again.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
35. Per the OP: "...outlaws the sale of high-capacity magazines..."
Sun May 19, 2013, 01:10 AM
May 2013

That would change it from simply trying to flout the law to a conspiracy to commit a felony. You really want to involve your Marine son in an illegal weapons smuggling ring? Imagine what that would do to his career. I hear the military frowns on that sort of thing. I'm sure they'd let you visit him in Leavenworth.

Admit it - you and your RW extremist loser friends in the NRA are on the wrong side of history.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
37. You need to do a little bit of research before posting
Mon May 20, 2013, 01:20 PM
May 2013

FOOLISHLY because you don't know what you're talking about and/or you didn't even read my last post, much less read the OP or the article associated with it. The law does not go into effect until OCTOBER 1.

And sorry, I have no RW extremist loser friends either in or not in the NRA.

Keep on flailing away now because when you start trying to toss around insults we know that's all you've got and you've lost.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
38. "illegal weapons smuggling ring:
Mon May 20, 2013, 01:23 PM
May 2013



It cracks me up how folks on the extremes on both sides of gun control issues are drama queens LOL

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
16. Let us know if he tries to take them onto the grounds of the USNA without clearance.
Thu May 16, 2013, 05:52 PM
May 2013

My younger brother (USNA '74) informs me that your Naval officer son will not enjoy the experience.

 

rl6214

(8,142 posts)
27. Why would he possibly want to take them on to the grounds of the academy.
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:17 PM
May 2013

Besides, he DOES have clearance.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
3. He may say it's a model for the rest of the nation,
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:37 PM
May 2013

however, I highly doubt the rest of the nation will model their laws on MD's, I know for sure that Nevada won't and I'll bet my pension that most of the southern and southwestern states won't also.

Didn't CA say the same thing several years ago? How well did that work out?

But, it's their state, if that's what they want, more power to them, I'll stick to Nevada.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
6. For some reason, I'm reminded of a line from the movie Beautiful Creatures
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:46 PM
May 2013

describing the town he grew up in. It went something like:

"There were 12 churches but only one library, and they re-enacted the civil war so often and so intensely it was as if they were hoping for a different outcome."

derby378

(30,252 posts)
15. It'll never pass in Texas, that's for sure
Thu May 16, 2013, 05:46 PM
May 2013

Maryland has always been a strong gun-control state, so this is not that much of a surprise, given its close proximity to DC and Delaware.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. So AR's will have a differently shaped grip to be sold in Maryland
Thu May 16, 2013, 01:37 PM
May 2013

Awesome job!

OTOH the licenses are a good idea; if the assault weapon silliness is what we have to put up with to get that, so be it.

thucythucy

(8,045 posts)
23. Good for you!
Fri May 17, 2013, 10:59 AM
May 2013

It's refreshing to have such a strong gun-rights advocate such as yourself take a common sense and balanced approach to these developments.

Recursion, I wish we had a couple million more like you!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
24. Hey, I'm a pragmatist
Fri May 17, 2013, 11:01 AM
May 2013

We need licensing. I disagree with what it took to get there, but I'm also a realist. Good job for O'Malley. He's on my short list for the next POTUS, personally.

thucythucy

(8,045 posts)
25. And I just now posted on an OP you posted
Fri May 17, 2013, 11:07 AM
May 2013

on male rape.

That's two thumbs up (so far) today!

I know we've tussled in the past (on guns, of course) but I am truly impressed. If this is what "pragmatism" looks like I'd like to see lots more of it.

Best wishes.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
9. And Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Washington State...
Thu May 16, 2013, 05:14 PM
May 2013

... several more well on their way. I invite you to peruse our 50-state (plus D.C.) Legislative Action thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1262291

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
12. The NRA - like every extremist RW front group - knows it's on the wrong side of history.
Thu May 16, 2013, 05:34 PM
May 2013

That's what makes them dangerous.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
21. So proud of my home state.
Fri May 17, 2013, 10:11 AM
May 2013

They abolish the death penalty and now they have the guts to pass legislation that Congress should, but wouldn't.

Oh, and the Ravens won the Super Bowl, and mark my words, the Orioles will win the World Series this year.

Oh, and David Simon produced dramas are the best thing to ever grace the television screen.

Now, let's all crack open a Natty Bo, cover up the backyard picnic table with yesterday's Baltimore Sun, bring out a vat of steamed crabs, sprinkle Old Bay liberally all over the table, and toast the Old Line State!

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