My prediction re " The IRS Scandal". After all the blah blah blah, unturned stones,

[Ninga]

dog and pony show of testimony....the last wet leaf in the pile of steaming compost turned over....and whoa la! Confused IRS workers thumbing through Citizen's United and IRS regs trying to figure out what to look for, how to process and whether to table the paper work or pass it on to the next department...

Remember where you heard it....

[Ninga]

1. All the framing and speculation about what happen at the IRS is rumor, not facts,

not knowledge....

[Buzz Clik]

2. That was a non-technical summary of the audit report.

Seems like a safe bet.

[Ninga]

3. Humans having to interpret forms, filings, regulations have a high chance of getting into a crash

At the intersection when the yellow light turns red.

[kentuck]

4. My guess would be that ....

the Repubs will not get what they want from the IRS investigation and they will try to re-define it as "incompetence" from the White House or "bureaucratic" bungling, when in fact, it will look more like a Republican conspiracy to launder money through these Tea Party groups and rubber-stamped by a few Republican holdovers in the IRS.

I think most people will conclude that the President needs to clean house at the IRS?

[Ninga]

5. I am not ready to see heads roll...why...because it passes the buck without dealing directly

With the fall out and it's direct relation to Citizens United.

[Ninga]

6. Larry o donnell right this moment supports my contention....

[kentuck]

7. How so?

Lawrence pointed out the "exclusive" wording in the original law, which was changed by Eisenhower's IRS commissioner. He said that none of the applications should have been approved. I would agree with him on that. However, in my opinion, we need to get the moles out of the IRS. They are not a lot different from spies within the CIA. They operate with a lot of secrecy and independently from the Executive Branch. So, I would say that both need to be done.

[Ninga]

8. My contention being...IRS workers doing the best they can applying the IRS regs. My contention is

that there was no deliberate targeting of Tea groups by IRS workers - as Larry said, more than the Tea's were highlighted...other groups we haven't heard about yet.

[kentuck]

9. I guess I heard it a little differently...

Although there may have been no deliberate targeting of Tea Party groups, we don't know that some folks in the IRS may have been deliberately moving hundreds of millions of dollars of Republican campaign funds thru these approved groups? I'm am not certain that it was only a "misunderstanding" of the rules by benevolent IRS workers?

[Democrat 4 Ever]

12. I work at the IRS and when it is all said and done it will be a whole of nothing but thunder

and lightning by the GOP who will then morph it into something much worse than Watergate. They will continue to dredge it up for the next 20 election cycles, pretend something awful happen and will use it to convince the sheeples someone was harmed. They are Benghazi "ing" it, just another political football.

The IRS gets thousands and thousands of requests for 501(c)3 and 4 requests they would NOT be doing their due diligence if they gave every single application a pass into tax free status. The GOP seems to forget there were several "democratic" leaning organizations that were also scrutinized. Their job was to see if they met the criteria for tax free status. My opinion is the loudest whiners are the ones who do not want their organization looked at too closely. If you truly qualify for the 501(c)4 status then shut up, let the IRS go through the process of reviewing the applications and everyone quit pretending there is a scandal brewing. And if you really want to get technical, let's review how the Bushie White House handle the same issue, this has Karl Rove screaming because he knows this is exactly something he would (or did) have done.

The IRS funding has been slashed, we are understaffed, overworked, have less resources to get our work done. I haven't had a raise in three years, buy my own office supplies and I start getting furloughed next week for 5-7 days because of the sequester. I know the majority of people hate the IRS but it is made up of a lot of people who want to do a good job, help the taxpayers get in compliance, get a refund, get their account corrected and don't have time to worry about the political shenanigans is DC.

[reformist2]

10. You might be right, but Lois Lerner's confession indicates they were biased.

[Ninga]

11. well then....it will all come out in the wash hopefully.....