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sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
Sat May 18, 2013, 07:37 PM May 2013

Noonan vs Silver...its a rout!

Last edited Sat May 18, 2013, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)

From: Nate Silver


SNIP:

Riding in on his white horse to save the day is the man who so vexed the Republicans during the 2012 campaign by not scewing the polls towards a Romney win...Nate Silver.
The I.R.S. publishes data each year on the number of taxpayers it audits. In 2012, it conducted just shy of 1.5 million audits out of 144 million individual income tax returns...


The point is, however, that even with no political targeting at all, hundreds of thousands of conservative voters would have been chosen for audits in the I.R.S.’s normal course of business. Among these hundreds of thousands of voters, thousands would undoubtedly have gone beyond merely voting to become political activists.

The fact that Ms. Noonan has identified four conservatives from that group of thousands provides no evidence at all toward her hypothesis. Nor would it tell us very much if dozens or even hundreds of conservative activists disclosed that they had been audited. This is exactly what you would expect in a country where there are 1.5 million audits every year.

http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2013/05/noonan-vs-silverits-route.html





From: Peggy Noonan
We are in the midst of the worst Washington scandal since Watergate. The reputation of the Obama White House has, among conservatives, gone from sketchy to sinister, and, among liberals, from unsatisfying to dangerous. No one likes what they're seeing.The Justice Department assault on the Associated Press and the ugly politicization of the Internal Revenue Service have left the administration's credibility deeply, probably irretrievably damaged.They don't look jerky now, they look dirty. The patina of high-mindedness the president enjoyed is gone.
SNIP:

The IRS scandal has two parts. The first is the obviously deliberate and targeted abuse, harassment and attempted suppression of conservative groups. The second is the auditing of the taxes of political activists.
SNIP:

The second part of the scandal is the auditing of political activists who have opposed the administration. The Journal's Kim Strassel reported an Idaho businessman named Frank VanderSloot, who'd donated more than a million dollars to groups supporting Mitt Romney. He found himself last June, for the first time in 30 years, the target of IRS auditors. His wife and his business were also soon audited. Hal Scherz, a Georgia physician, also came to the government's attention. He told ABC News: "It is odd that nothing changed on my tax return and I was never audited until I publicly criticized ObamaCare.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323582904578487460479247792.html


Well Peggy my girl, this statement you made about This Democratic administration:

credibility deeply, probably irretrievably damaged.They don't look jerky now, they look dirty. The patina of high-mindedness...


I do believe you just described your own sorry party. The one that seems to be scraping egg off it's face as we speak!

Go Nate Silver!
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Noonan vs Silver...its a rout! (Original Post) sheshe2 May 2013 OP
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! malaise May 2013 #1
Noonan has gone barking mad. nt grasswire May 2013 #2
Peggy has always been a lightweight malaise May 2013 #3
She's no match for Nate! sheshe2 May 2013 #4
Now that's an understatement malaise May 2013 #5
Cheesy Grits~ sheshe2 May 2013 #6
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahha malaise May 2013 #7
Oh, Cha May 2013 #17
Worse than Iran-Contra? NewJeffCT May 2013 #8
The party of stupid,NewJeff. sheshe2 May 2013 #9
Worse Than Lying Our Way Into A War Of Choice DallasNE May 2013 #10
The Right-Wing is Completely Insane mckara May 2013 #11
Silver was GROSSLY unfair to Noonan . . . MrModerate May 2013 #12
Lol TxDemChem May 2013 #13
HAHAHAHA!!! If you made that up you're a genius. nolabear May 2013 #14
My brain was on vodka TxDemChem May 2013 #18
(rimshot!) n/t MrModerate May 2013 #15
"Yeah, right. I thought the Republicans were going to work on that "overreach" thing. Guess not." Cha May 2013 #16

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. Worse than Iran-Contra?
Sat May 18, 2013, 09:16 PM
May 2013

Worse than the S&L debacle?
The HUD scandal under Reagan?
Bigger than the Florida voter purge?
Worse than Enron?
Worse than ignoring "Bin Laden Determined to strike in the US"?
Worse than having bin Laden surrounded, only to let him go?
Worse than Halliburton getting no-bid contracts for billions, then not being able to account for the money?
Worse than US troops having unarmored hummers?
Worse than outing a CIA agent?
Worse than firing US attorneys for political reasons?
Worse than ignoring the warning signs on Bernie Madoff?
Worse than Bush 1 pardoning Iran-Contra figures?

sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
9. The party of stupid,NewJeff.
Sat May 18, 2013, 09:29 PM
May 2013

They will do and say anything to bring this country to it's knees.

They do it for power, by my book that is treason!

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
10. Worse Than Lying Our Way Into A War Of Choice
Sat May 18, 2013, 09:57 PM
May 2013

Worse than outing a CIA operative who's husband exposed the yellowcake lie as payback.

Worse than not reading Hans Blix's report back to the UN. (Assumption is he couldn't have read it otherwise he would have know for sure Saddam had no WMD and no nuclear program on the drawing board).

And that is only the most recent Republican administration.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
12. Silver was GROSSLY unfair to Noonan . . .
Sat May 18, 2013, 10:13 PM
May 2013

He used data against an unarmed woman. Has he no decency?

nolabear

(41,932 posts)
14. HAHAHAHA!!! If you made that up you're a genius.
Sat May 18, 2013, 10:24 PM
May 2013

Of course I think anyone who can do anything with math is a genius. I'm thinking of building an altar to Nate.

Cha

(296,844 posts)
16. "Yeah, right. I thought the Republicans were going to work on that "overreach" thing. Guess not."
Sun May 19, 2013, 01:38 AM
May 2013

they Lied.

Good to see smartypants shutting down.. "this is no ordinary scandal"

From your link, she..

snip***

"And while being ever-so-cordial in this Noonan take-down, Silver provides just a bit of "stick a fork in this one" at the end.

Ms. Noonan, and many other commentators, made a similar mistake last year in their analysis of the presidential election, when they cited evidence like the number of Mitt Romney yard signs in certain neighborhoods as an indication that he was likely to win, while dismissing polls that collectively surveyed hundreds of thousands of voters in swing states and largely showed Mr Obama ahead.

Take a bow Mr Silver.

***snip

Grazie, She~

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