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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHey! Paul Krugman had a meeting at the White House today!
Ha! Consider yourself punked!
No meeting. We're still in fully-descredited common-sense belt-tightening bipartisan austerity that has never ever worked mode. Except for bankers who get unlimited cash with zero interest.
Return to your regular programming, chumps.
(Reality seems to have no bearing on reality these days... gets frustrating...)
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)So things could be worse, I guess.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)only with the banksters' / 1% economy.
Bonhomme Richard
(9,000 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Indykatie
(3,695 posts)Skittles
(153,147 posts)Manny is spot-on
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)tokenlib
(4,186 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)Thanks, Skittles.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Skittles
(153,147 posts)yes INDEED
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Actually, fat, drunk and stupid hasn't been as catastrophic as you might think.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)but one could do worse.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)The source is one you should pay attention to if you care about reality and a liberal agenda.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)we need to cut him some slack.
Number23
(24,544 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Scanning today's news, there's no correlation between reality and reality. I'm a stickler for reality being real.
GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)It's not so bad. I think it's cherry flavored.
Fascism is painless. It takes on many changes.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Last edited Tue May 21, 2013, 11:58 PM - Edit history (1)
A colonic treat.
That explodes in a tangle of barbed wire once it reaches the desired depth.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Skittles
(153,147 posts)it's bad enough they don't live in the real world
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Trust me on that.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Dont ask me why I rec'd this thread.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)he's not on jury duty.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)At least by some of 'em.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)about, Dean Baker eg, Stiglitz, Progressive, intelligent and RIGHT about the economy and how it affects real people, those kinds of economists, why have they NOT been invited to the WH while morons and criminals like Jamie Dimon et al appear to have an open invitation to this Democratic WH. Anyone know the answer to that question?
Another thought-provoking OP from Third Way Manny.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)All they have to do is get hired by Goldman. Then the WH will be all ears.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)skydive forever
(443 posts)I fell hook line and sinker for it. A glimmer of hope. Damn you Manny!!!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)piece by Krugman:
Krugman: Where Are The Deficit Celebrations?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022874877
The health care law is helping!
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And it's not like the outrage can just make itself.
Hope you have enough for the next 1000+ days.
I'd hate to see the machine run out.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Or coffee. Or whatever.
As much as we disagree, I suspect that you're a good... er... Joe.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)N'kay?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)he's gonna stiff you for a drink.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)it's been 14 hours since he's flung some poo, to the adoration of the fan club.
Number23
(24,544 posts)Can't have someone else getting any attention, now can we? Especially when there's all important recs to be counted.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)I thought maybe, just maybe, Reality had impinged upon the White House.
I guess I'm still believing in miracles.
abq e streeter
(7,658 posts)Hey, those would make great song titles.
But you really did. And yes, I should have known better.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)You are subject to a 5 min time-out.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)hay rick
(7,604 posts)Yeah, ya got me. I shoulda knowed better.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Damn.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Don't toy with us like that, man. I damn near started composing my mea culpa post.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
Beearewhyain
(600 posts)I had some hope for a second there.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)You should be ashamed for dangling that hope out to us. Do you really enjoy such sadistic cruelties?
gateley
(62,683 posts)immediately doubting even before I clicked on the thread.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)The bottom 99% lot a few hundred billion.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Corporate Profits Hit Record High While Worker Wages Hit Record Low
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/03/1270541/corporate-profits-wages-record/?mobile=nc
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)It's the only way the neo-liberals will let him in there.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)They want to make damned sure he stays out.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Andrew Leonard and Calculated Risk want to know why I didnt blog about dinner at the White House. Um, because the conversation was off the record.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/nothing-to-say/
Why would anyone want Krugman to become a regular at the WH? So people can accuse him of being a WH shill?
It's far better that he remain independent.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And the WH and (almost all of) Congress still show a total lack of interest in his advice, even though his predictions have been outstandingly correct.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"4 years ago....And the WH and (almost all of) Congress still show a total lack of interest in his advice, even though his predictions have been outstandingly correct."
...asked: Why would anyone want Krugman to become a regular at the WH? So people can accuse him of being a WH shill?
Still, I cannot argue with this: "his predictions have been outstandingly correct."
What would real action on health look like? Well, it might include things like giving an independent commission the power to ensure that Medicare only pays for procedures with real medical value; rewarding health care providers for delivering quality care rather than simply paying a fixed sum for every procedure; limiting the tax deductibility of private insurance plans; and so on.
And what do these things have in common? Theyre all in last years health reform bill.
Thats why I say that Mr. Obama gets too little credit. He has done more to rein in long-run deficits than any previous president. And if his opponents were serious about those deficits, theyd be backing his actions and calling for more; instead, theyve been screaming about death panels.
Now, even if we manage to rein in health costs, well still have a long-run deficit problem a fundamental gap between the governments spending and the amount it collects in taxes. So what should be done?
- more -
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/opinion/18krugman.html
He was right!
Krugman: Where Are The Deficit Celebrations?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022874877
He admits when the President Obama does something right and always points out the positive impacts of the President's policies.
Krugman: Not With A Bang But With A Whimper
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022215606
Krugman: Obama and Redistribution
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022224304
Krugman: Insurance and Freedom
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022636098
Yup, credit where credit is due. That why I say:
President Obama has done more to help the poor and middle class than any President since LBJ
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022660715
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Just that Obama isn't getting enough credit for austerity.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"He's not saying that austerity is a *good* thing Just that Obama isn't getting enough credit for austerity."
...austerity is not " a *good* thing," but raising revenue and bringing down health care costs are:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022874877
Along with addressing inequality: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2886041
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)and our health care costs are still double that of everyone else's. We voted for *real* change. At best, that's not what we got.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)which is probably why President "I Don't Recall" SPENT us out of a recession, while president "Let's cut SS benefits" lets it get worse.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)I guess it's just a fantasy.
theaocp
(4,236 posts)The way I heard it, they get it about zero and then loan it back at 3-4%. That's HARDLY zero. It's more like printing money. Or just stealing it from us.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)the Mad As Hell Doctors
http://madashelldoctors.com/caltrip/
Oh wait, that didn't happen either.
indepat
(20,899 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)HIGHlarious !!!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Rahm would refer to him as a "fucking retarded liberal"
Rec
wryter2000
(46,036 posts)I bask in your glow
Autumn
(45,055 posts)as soon as I'm done laughing my ass off
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)I was afraid they had him arrested.
K&R