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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:13 AM May 2013

Lois Lerner has been thrown under the bus....

The IRS had 120 employees looking at 70,000 501c(4) applications for tax free status.

Many of the applications in question were NOT tea party apps. They were doing their job in a very clumsy way....the GOP shows once again how to hammer the message.

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Lois Lerner has been thrown under the bus.... (Original Post) Ninga May 2013 OP
Or else the Dems know how to fall under the bus and let the GOP .. ananda May 2013 #1
Good. randome May 2013 #2
+1 Buzz Clik May 2013 #5
It does seem President Obama is getting blindsided by things like this Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #6
It's easy to "hammer the message" when you have the entire U.S. corporate media behind you. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #3
1000 days for processing an application was ten times the acceptable. Buzz Clik May 2013 #4
Sorry, no pity for this woman. NONE. Glitterati May 2013 #7
Of course..but you know, I could picture my self answering a question about Ninga May 2013 #9
Still wrecked. Glitterati May 2013 #11
She is on PAID leave. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #14
Valid processes Glitterati May 2013 #16
In my view she might have been blind-sided by doing what she thought was her job and Ninga May 2013 #8
that's plausible Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #12
The wording of the tax status is basically written so that if you do your job Johonny May 2013 #15
This lady timdog44 May 2013 #10
scapegoat de jour dembotoz May 2013 #13
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. Good.
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:17 AM
May 2013

She did the President -and all of us- a disservice by her awkward handling of the situation. She is at the very least a poor administrator. At the worst, a GOP mole.



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Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
6. It does seem President Obama is getting blindsided by things like this
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:25 AM
May 2013

way too much, it's unecessary and I think we should want him to clean house a little.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. It's easy to "hammer the message" when you have the entire U.S. corporate media behind you.
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:19 AM
May 2013

Americans need to finally open their eyes and see that our media is pro-Republican, pro-Corporate, all of the time. It would make it easier for us to place the blame where it belongs: on the enablers of Republican narrative and lies.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
4. 1000 days for processing an application was ten times the acceptable.
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:22 AM
May 2013

Corrections were made, and then they started doing it again.

Something had to happen. It was on her watch, she was in charge. Goodbye.

Shit happens.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
7. Sorry, no pity for this woman. NONE.
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:38 AM
May 2013

Any IRS employee who says to the press, "I'm not good at math." should have been thrown under the bus long ago. By her superiors.

Lois Lerner is the epitome of what the teabaggers use to point and scream government, bad! See! Government. Bad.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
9. Of course..but you know, I could picture my self answering a question about
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:48 AM
May 2013

how a product works, and say I didn't know because I'm not good at engineering because I'm in marketing.... Not trying to make excuses but trying to say that sometimes we find ourselves in an intersection accident wondering how it happened because we thought we had the green arrow.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
11. Still wrecked.
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:52 AM
May 2013

And, your insurance company is going to make you pay for that on your record whether you were at fault or not.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
14. She is on PAID leave.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:06 AM
May 2013

Having refused to resign.
So not suffering too much at this point.
I think she is protecing someone, actually.

 

Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
16. Valid processes
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:36 AM
May 2013

I don't have a problem with our government following the established valid processes to separate this woman from her job. No matter what she's done, she's a civil servant, afforded those protections and we should follow them to the letter.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
8. In my view she might have been blind-sided by doing what she thought was her job and
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:42 AM
May 2013

moreover never expected she needed to be media savvy.

My frustration with how this was rolled out and there seems to be a chunk of information that missing.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
12. that's plausible
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:52 AM
May 2013

I hadn't considered that. The appearance is that it's always the president getting blindsided, at least it seems that way to me, that can also be Jay Carney who when pressed seems hardly convincing and that may reinforce my feeling that the president is being treated like a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed sh*t.

Johonny

(20,829 posts)
15. The wording of the tax status is basically written so that if you do your job
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:11 AM
May 2013

you're screwed. So of course she's being thrown under the bus. Better to blame the employee than the people at the top of the system, namely the crappy legislative people that create special tax status that if you look if people are eligible for them they can turn around and claim to be political witch hunt victims. She's screwed, no politician is going to stand up for the line managers. Everyone hates the IRS so there basically is no one to defend these people. Do you want to stake your political career defending lowly people in the IRS, no clearly none of them do.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
10. This lady
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:48 AM
May 2013

was in charge of this department. That would imply she should have known how to handle the position. If she had done her job, there would have been no problems. She caused the problems 1) because she did not do her job and 2) she then let our her own dirty laundry and tried to stick it to someone else.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
13. scapegoat de jour
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:57 AM
May 2013

understaffed department get big increase in workload

to get this status you are not supposed to be a political party so all those apps that are obviously political getting a closer look
seems like a no brainer to me

the fact that tax exempt status for political parties in FRAUD seems lost somehow

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