Russia says it will send missiles to Syria. Israel says it will strike them if they do

[cali]

Israeli defense chief indicates if Russia ships advanced missiles to Syria, they could be hit

srael’s defense minister on Tuesday signaled that his military is prepared to strike shipments of advanced Russian weapons to Syria, in a rare implied threat to Moscow.

Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon issued his warning shortly after a top Russian official said his government reserves the right to provide Syria with state-of-the-art S-300 air defense missiles.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israels-defense-chief-hints-that-transfer-of-russias-advanced-weapons-to-syria-could-be-hit/2013/05/28/43dba3d4-c78f-11e2-9cd9-3b9a22a4000a_story.html

[CincyDem]

1. Yep - this is going to end well.

[dixiegrrrrl]

2. Next up on the global war stage: China.

And is Egypt still viable, or did we neuter it sufficiently?

[newmember]

3. Israel wouldn't bomb a Russian ship

An American one... ......yes

our good friends Israel

[cali]

4. why wouldn't they?

[premium]

6. If it's in their best interest,

yeah, they would.
What Israel would probably do is wait until they're offloaded and enroute to their deployment base before striking them.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. Of course Israel would bomb a Russian ship

then of course they would hide behind America.

[premium]

10. I very seriously doubt they would attack a Russian ship,

they would most likely wait until the missiles are on the way to their deployment site before striking them, that way, the chance of killing Russian personnel is greatly reduced.

[MattBaggins]

22. They would not attack a Russian ship

[premium]

24. Agreed. nt.

[MattBaggins]

25. My question would be on the Russians

would they send the weapons to Syria directly or use another country as a middle man?

[premium]

27. That's a hell of a good question.

My personal take on it would be that they'll use their own ship as an "in your face" message to Israel that they'll stand by their ally, Syria.
Of course, I could be 100% wrong, it's happened a time or two.

[pampango]

5. Sending anti-aircraft missiles to Syria is a bad idea whether

they are intended for "our" side or "theirs".

They are likely to end up in the wrong hands in either case and be used against civilian (American, Russian or any other country) airplanes.

[RobertEarl]

7. Libya

Imagine if Libya had anti-aircraft missiles. Gadafi would still be kicking.

If Israel attacks a Russian ship?... Russia has defense capabilities. Israel is bluffing.

[premium]

11. They won't have to hit the ship,

they would probably wait until the missiles are being transported to their deployment site and hit the convoy, thereby greatly reducing the risk of Russian casualties.

[RobertEarl]

14. True

Syria could deploy the missiles on the dock next to the Russian ship. Would Israel bomb there?

And move them from there only at night with a lot of decoys. Israel can be fooled.

[premium]

17. I highly doubt Israel would bomb the dock,

too much risk of Russian casualties, which would really piss off the Kremlin and invite retaliation.

The Syrians could move them at night using decoys, but Israel has a pretty good intelligence agency and probably wouldn't be fooled.

Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail and no military action will happen.

[RobertEarl]

18. Cooler heads?

Israel has already attacked Syria. And Syria has not counter attacked. So Syria is the cooler head, and Israel is the hot headed, warmongering, nuke owning threat? Yep.

[premium]

19. Sorry, I wasn't clear.

What I meant was that hopefully cooler heads in Russia will withhold the shipment for now.

[RobertEarl]

20. Syria and Russia are friends

Russia is, again, the cooler head in this.

Hopefully the US will make Israel quit being so damned foolish and quit threatening everyone. But then the 'End Time' bible beaters would have to go find some other bunch to pee on, eh?

Hey, premium, you're not one of those "Israel can do no harm" types are you?

[premium]

21. No, I'm not.

Israel has a lot to answer for, but so does groups like Hamas, Hezzbollah. I'm not really well versed on Middle East politics, I'll leave that to my more learned colleagues on DU, which, I'm assuming, you are one of.

[cali]

31. hey bobby you're not one of those Israel is the root of all evil types, are you dear?

[Arctic Dave]

8. Is that sound I hear Putin laughing his ass off?

Putin would crush Israel like a grape.

[LittleBlue]

12. They wouldn't dare

Start killing Russians and it's glass parking lot time for Israel

[davidn3600]

16. They'll dare... they've even bombed an American ship in the past

[premium]

23. Yeah, they did bomb an American in the past,

but they knew that we wouldn't retaliate, what are the chances that the Kremlin won't retaliate?
Probably zero chance that there wouldn't be any retaliation.

Israel's alot of things, but they're not stupid enough to think that Russia won't hit back if Russian nationals or property is attacked.

[MattBaggins]

26. Different world today

This they wouldn't be able to sweep under the table.

[stevenleser]

39. Russia would not attack Israel with nuclear weapons because Israel has the ability to retaliate

They have land based missiles capable of reaching 90% of Russia and they also have submarine launched ballistic missiles.

[Initech]

13. Is it World War III yet?

[RobertEarl]

15. Israel is pushing Obama

They really just need to stop. Surely Obama has told them as much.

[cali]

28. I think people like you are in utter denial

It's so ridiculous to think the U.S. is the one being pushed. The blunt truth is that the U.S. is the most war happy nation on the face of the planet.

[RobertEarl]

29. Utter drivel from you cali

With a small element of truth. Bush, Reagan, et al, when in power, did drive us right to the edge and cause much war. But the nation these days is not them. Obama is working to bring it all back to benevolence. That's how he got elected.

I would consider your drivel to be that which is meant to be a cover for Israel and its warmongering.

[cali]

30. bwahaha, honey.

yeah, because continuing the war in Afghanistan, targeted drone killings, etc are bringing us back to benevolence.

As for covering for Israel, sweetums, let me suggest that you check out my comments in I/P. Then don't choke yourself on the crow you'll be chomping on. I couldn't be more critical of Israel in post after post after post. duh.

Talk about ignorant drivel, you're a master.

[RobertEarl]

32. Heh

You are one to talk. You see the two leaders who stole their elections to office as the US. Such willful blindness makes you seem way out of touch.

Obama has had these issues dropped in his lap. He did not create the wars, but he is drawing us out. And that against the warmonger's threats. Like those that Israel uses to get its billions in welfare.

I will admit to not being a follower of your stuff in I/P, or anywhere. So if you really are an opponent of Israeli aggression this is a good time and place to make that clear.

[cali]

36. lol. that doesn't even make any sense, dear.

what does this even mean? "you see the two leaders who stole their elections to office as the US. Such willful blindness makes you seem way out of touch."

Can you attempt to put that into intelligible language?

And although Obama is an improvement on buschco, he has not ended the war in Afghanistan- which has been a disaster. Indeed, he ramped it up.

And go fucking do a search for my I/P posts. I'm not gonna cater to your lazy posterior and do it for you. They're easy to find and the last thing anyone in that forum would call me, pumpkin, is an apologist for Israel. Oh, and I don't have to make shit clear for you, got it?

[RobertEarl]

40. Ahaa

You can't even say here that you oppose Israel's warmongering, but you can piss on Obama?

The Native Americans have a saying for folks that talk like you: Speak with forked tongue.

As to the stolen elections... I guess you just can't accept that both Reagan and Bush stole their elections, and that is why your head twisted around like that so you can't grok the idea?

[yurbud]

34. I agree BUT in this case, are the guys in Washington so obsessed with money and kowtowing to it that

they would start a war that would wipe out most of the life on earth?

Hmmm...that question kind of answers itself.

I'll start preparing a time capsule for the next intelligent species to arise here or any visiting aliens.

[Harmony Blue]

33. I have to side with Israel in this issue

these missile have the range to threaten air spaces beyond Syria. Civilian and military planes are vulnerable (especially if they fall into the wrong hands). A good chunk o northern Israel is pretty much threatend if these missiles are deployed, set up, and trained personnel are stationed near them.

[yurbud]

35. Over the last couple of decades, Israel has done a good job of being "the wrong hands"

[cali]

37. this is already a dangerous regional conflict and Israel needs to stay the hell out of it.

[Harmony Blue]

38. They can't

their entire northern air space is threatened. And neighbors are threatened as well if this shipment comes to fruition.