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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:56 AM May 2013

(UK) Courts may be privatised to save Ministry of Justice £1bn

The plans would free the courts from Treasure control, placing court buildings and thousands of staff in the hands of private companies.

The system would be funded by extracting larger fees from wealthy litigants and private sector investment, and by encouraging hedge funds to invest by an attractive rate of return, according to The Times.

Fears that privatisation would erode the independence of the courts would be allayed by placing the courts under a Royal Charter, as has been proposed for the regulation of the press.

Earlier this year Justice Secretary Chris Grayling paved the way for reform by instructing officials to explore plans and ensure that the Courts and Tribunal Service provides value for money.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/spending-review/10083214/Courts-may-be-privatised-to-save-Ministry-of-Justice-1bn.html

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(UK) Courts may be privatised to save Ministry of Justice £1bn (Original Post) The Straight Story May 2013 OP
What is this, a nihilistic science fiction story? nt MrScorpio May 2013 #1
Yup, dystopia my dear, dystopia nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #3
This, Sir, Is Simply Bizarre The Magistrate May 2013 #2
The leak was to The Times; everyone believes it has some basis in reality muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #7
Jesus Wept, Sir The Magistrate May 2013 #8
That is a fuck up. sibelian May 2013 #4
Oh good. bemildred May 2013 #5
How many ways can this go wrong? dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #6
stranger than fiction. limpyhobbler May 2013 #9

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
2. This, Sir, Is Simply Bizarre
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:00 PM
May 2013

One wonders if someone at The Telegraph has not been stung by a well-executed satire piece....

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
7. The leak was to The Times; everyone believes it has some basis in reality
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:44 PM
May 2013

The MoJ has denied it will be wholesale privatisation:

Responding late on Monday night to claims that a sale was actively being considered, an MoJ spokesperson stated: "We have always said we are determined to deliver a courts system that is more effective and efficient and provides improved services for victims and witnesses. The proposals being considered are not the wholesale privatisation of the courts service.

"We are committed to the firm, fair and independent administration of justice."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/28/moj-denies-privatisation-courts-service


So we can be sure the judges will still be employed by the state. Below that - who knows?

On 26 March Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice Chris Grayling released a statement announcing that administrative and cost efficency reforms for the court and tribunal service were under consideration.

Grayling’s statement said: “We need to look at the way we deliver our services to provide a more efficient service that delivers access to justice quickly and effectively, while delivering value for money for the taxpayer. At the same time, we must preserve the independence of the judiciary which lies at the heart of our constitutional arrangements.”

He went on to say that the reforms would seek to enhance the UK’s reputation as an international centre of litigation and dispute resolution, adding: “I also want to ensure that those who litigate in our courts pay their fair share, and that it is possible to raise the revenue and investment necessary to modernise the infrastructure and deliver a better and more flexible service to court users.”

Baker & McKenzie litigation partner Jeremy Winter said: “No one could object to the idea of improving the efficiency of the court service. However, I am sure that any privatisation involving the courts would immediately result in significantly higher court fees charged to litigants. This would reduce access to justice for the ordinary litigant, and is also likely to discourage foreign litigants from using the UK courts. Since the UK legal profession makes such a valuable and important contribution to UK exports, that is something that the Chancellor ought to be concerned to protect.”

http://www.thelawyer.com/news-and-analysis/practice-areas/litigation/lawyers-criticise-court-privatisation-proposals/3005318.article


It's standard practice for British governments to sell government buildings they're still using, rent them back from the private sector, and get shafted in the deal (or, more precisely, shaft future governments and taxpayers). This looks very likely to happen. The question will be whether the people who do the things like organise the juries, clerks of the court and so on will be privatised. We have some privately-run prisons (by some very incompetent companies), so I think the Tories would be willing to do this too.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
4. That is a fuck up.
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:04 PM
May 2013

That is the most fucked up piece of fuck up I have ever heard in my entire fucked up life, which, ladies and gentleman, has, thus far, been pretty fucked up.

Let's not do things like that, hm? I think it's reasonable to assume that this is More Than Quite Likely to Go Badly.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. How many ways can this go wrong?
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:38 PM
May 2013

Private ( read: for profit) courts funneling convicted clients to private prisons.

"extracting larger fees from wealthy litigants"....guess Britain does not have any anti-discrimination laws, eh?

"encouraging hedge funds to invest "...I am sure those funds would never ever ever make inside bets on the system.
( like they have done so many times in the past).

wonder how long it will take for the idea to be imported to our shores?

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