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Rate Shock: In California, Obamacare to Increase Individual Health Insurance Premiums by 64-146% (Original Post) still_one May 2013 OP
That opinion piece was written by Mitt Romney's health care policy advisor EarlG May 2013 #1
Context is important isn't it? sharp_stick May 2013 #2
+1. obnoxiousdrunk May 2013 #3
+1...nt SidDithers May 2013 #8
+1 uponit7771 May 2013 #12
If the average person could actually obtain good health insurance for $121 a month, hedgehog May 2013 #4
+1. pnwmom May 2013 #9
didn't we just have a thread here about Obamacare lowering the rates in California?? cbdo2007 May 2013 #5
I find it to be surprising hfojvt May 2013 #6
Avik Roy is a right-winger... SidDithers May 2013 #7
Only if you believe right-wing turds and what they write. Ikonoklast May 2013 #10
When have rightwingers ever been right about anything? Take your time. JaneyVee May 2013 #11

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
4. If the average person could actually obtain good health insurance for $121 a month,
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:21 PM
May 2013

there wouldn't be a health care crisis!

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
5. didn't we just have a thread here about Obamacare lowering the rates in California??
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:27 PM
May 2013

Anyone can spin anything anyway they want to.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
6. I find it to be surprising
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:29 PM
May 2013

but I don't know that much about health insurance, since I do not follow it that closely.

The surprising thing to me, is what the article claims here
that premiums for individual policies are less than premiums for group policies.

I thought the whole point of group policies was to get lower rates.

Also, I have not seen, nor searched for, statistics. My thinking was that most people get their health insurance from group policies that are provided at their job, and where their employers pay a significant portion.

Myself, I currently pay $0 per month for my health insurance, including dental. So it costs me nothing.

However, my employer pays, for example in 2008 (the quickest sheet I can find) about $486 a month. Well, in 2008, as a part-time employee, I paid half of that. But it almost sounds like I was stupid to do so, that I might have been able to get an individual plan (maybe not because I was 46 back then, not 28 or 40) for less than the half-price group plan (that was also a tax deduction. I didn't even pay FICA taxes on my premiums, which I would have on an individual plan.)

So who knows.

But if you cannot trust Forbes magazine to stand up for the little guy, who can you trust?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
10. Only if you believe right-wing turds and what they write.
Thu May 30, 2013, 01:59 PM
May 2013

These guys are failing so badly now, they are truly desperate as more of Obamacare comes on line as more people, even Republicans, are gaining benefit from it and liking what they see.



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