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struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
Fri May 31, 2013, 06:58 PM May 2013

How to lose friends: pastmaster Julian Assange disses another fan

31 May 2013

... Dominic Shelmerdine had stood outside the Ecuador embassy .. since June last year for several days a week to support the WikiLeaks founder.

Ten days ago .. the “staunch Tory Thatcherite” was minded to give up standing vigil on account of Assange’s failure to respond to his request to meet him for 10 minutes ... “Afterwards ..” Shelmderdine tells me, “.. I was called an MI5 agent by some of the demonstrators. While I have every respect for the dedication of the few (two) now left as regular outside supporters, I have definitely given up ... Assange takes them for granted and has a .. self-centred ego. He should go to Sweden, and stop wasting police time ... Jemima Khan was right ... he is making a mockery out of WikiLeaks. It is Bradley Manning .. who took the risks.”


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/how-to-lose-friends-pastmaster-julian-assange-disses-another-fan-8639502.html

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How to lose friends: pastmaster Julian Assange disses another fan (Original Post) struggle4progress May 2013 OP
All those people who put up bail, and lost money on him. MADem May 2013 #1
He's a strange fellow, for sure struggle4progress May 2013 #2
I'm of the opinion that the Senatorial campaign, and Wikileaks Party... SidDithers May 2013 #3
Dunno what he's really up to. He certainly seems never to have taken much interest struggle4progress May 2013 #5
i kind of have a hard time feeling bad for some of his supporters JI7 May 2013 #4
I enjoyed the idea that a “staunch Tory Thatcherite” stood faithfully with one or two others struggle4progress May 2013 #6
Standing virgil for what? nt bluestate10 May 2013 #7

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. All those people who put up bail, and lost money on him.
Fri May 31, 2013, 07:03 PM
May 2013

It was quite a bit of scratch, too.

Such a sense of entitlement!

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
3. I'm of the opinion that the Senatorial campaign, and Wikileaks Party...
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:18 PM
May 2013

is really about cash. As a candidate, and a party, they're able to solicit political donations, and circumvent the blocking of direct donations to the organization.

Just a theory, of course.

Sid

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
5. Dunno what he's really up to. He certainly seems never to have taken much interest
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:53 PM
May 2013

in ordinary politics before now, since he finally had to register to vote as part of becoming eligible to be a candidate. And it's not clear to me that he'll actually still be a candidate when elections roll round, since he seems to have been representing a short visit to his mother as a time he was recently in permanent residence in Australia, which perhaps someone will challenge as pure blarney before all is said and done

But suppose he still is a candidate at election time: then Australia's preference voting scheme plays a role, and it has sometimes elected candidates who initially received only a tiny percent of the first preference votes. Each voter ranks all the candidates in order of preference, from first to last. Then the fun begins:

How the Senate votes are counted
To be elected .. a candidate needs .. a quota of the .. votes. The quota is calculated by dividing the .. number of .. ballot papers by one more than the number of Senators to be elected and then adding '1' to the result ... The ballot papers are sorted according to which candidate has received the number '1' preference ... Candidates who receive the quota ... of these first preference votes, are elected immediately. As a general rule, when a candidate is elected with a surplus .. that surplus is transferred before any exclusions are undertaken. Any surplus votes .. (i.e. votes in excess of the quota they needed), are transferred to the candidates who were the second choice of voters. Because it is not possible to determine which votes actually elected the candidate and which votes are surplus, all the elected candidate's ballot papers are transferred at a reduced rate ... As a result of .. transferring surplus votes, other candidates may be elected. If all surplus votes from elected candidates are transferred and there are still some unfilled positions, further counting is undertaken ... Starting with the candidate who has the lowest number of votes, unelected candidates are excluded ...Their ballot papers are distributed to the remaining candidates ... If any of the remaining candidates obtain a quota through this process of distribution, they are declared elected. Their surplus (if any) is transferred before any other candidates are excluded. The above process continue until all Senate positions are filled ... It is some weeks before all Senators are declared elected ...


Of course, even if elected, he would face some further hurdles, because he probably won't show up to be sworn in

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
6. I enjoyed the idea that a “staunch Tory Thatcherite” stood faithfully with one or two others
Fri May 31, 2013, 08:56 PM
May 2013

outside in bad weather week after week and then finally decided he didn't like Assange after all because Assange refused to meet him



I hope that doesn't make me a bad person

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