Why does the MSM allow a bunch of pedophile enablers

[edhopper]

to speak with any moral authority?
Why should an criminal institution, which should have been shut down, and would have, had it not been religious. Get to dictate the law of this country?

[originalpckelly]

1. Eggsactly.

While most parishioners had no clue about the abuse in many cases, even some of them did but chose to believe the priests over their own fucking kids.

And that church just seemed to think it could shuffle fucking pedos around just to make it go away.

After this point they shouldn't even be allowed to operate, let alone pontificate on the rights of free women to control their own damn bodies.

[Cleita]

2. With that kind of thinking, we should have thrown out the whole government of the USA when

Bush was appointed President. Yet, the problems with states like Wisconsin and the Republican Presidential campaign has shown that there are still anti-American conservatives still out there ready to spread their poison the minute they get into power. The whole religious institution is not comprised of pedophiles and there has been so much attention to this that I'm almost certain that an internal purge of these people is happening within that institution now as I type this. I only wish it were the same for our government.

[edhopper]

3. I did not say pedophiles

I said pedophile enablers. Which included the entire hierarchy, including the present Pope.
So tell me when the College of Cardinals and the Pope steps down.

[Cleita]

6. And with all the money they have had to pay out in lawsuits, they have seen the

error in this, I'm certain. Just to put another side on this. Back when I was getting a Catholic education, gay priests were often assigned to convents and other insular Catholic institutions as missions to keep them out of the eye of lay parishioners. Even though homosexuality was condemned from the pulpit, it was pretty common among the clergy. This moving around of missions of errant priests wasn't just for pedophiles and it was very wrong and not addressing the root problems. However, it was the way it was done and perhaps for centuries for all I know. I'm not an apologist for the Church and sometimes I think it should go the way of the Dodo bird, but you are talking about millions of people who are part of it and you are never going to get rid of the Vatican, so the second best thing is to get them to change their ways.

[edhopper]

8. I know it won't happen

just saying if it was anything but a religous institution it would have been disbanded.
And BTW the Church is the clergy, not the churchgoers. The Church will protect the clergy over the welfare of the flock every time.
And i think you are delusional if you think they are adressing the problem with anything more than damage control.

[Cleita]

11. I don't go to church anymore because it has nothing to offer me

spiritually, but there are many who still do and who are very disillusioned. If the laity doesn't put the pressure on the clergy nothing happens, but the pressure is going on and at the end of the day the Church relies on donations from the working class to survive. I believe you will see more change than just a band aid. Admittedly, it will be molasses slow.

[edhopper]

12. As I said

when the Pope resigns, I'll think progress was made.

[Cleita]

15. Well, don't hold your breathe because there will be another Pope elected

and he will be like the one before him, except maybe more cautious.

[edhopper]

16. Not

holding my breath.

[originalpckelly]

4. Maybe the government should be thrown out?

After all, we're using governing technology from a time when people attached leeches to you in order to save you from having too much blood.

Things have changed a little in that time. Perhaps we should have formal codification of the ideas we hold to be true in the decade.

[Cleita]

7. I wouldn't mind a Constitutional convention to update things and bring

it into the twenty-first century, but then that's why we have an amendment process, which is difficult to do already, so you can imagine how hard it would be to update the whole Constitution.

[DCKit]

5. Because the MSM hasn't been called on it publicly.

Same reason 62% of the authoritarians who lecture women about birth control are male.

As you said, WTF????

[RZM]

9. Is this about R. Kelly's fan club?

And the Penn State football boosters?

Oh, it's about the Catholic Church.

Never mind

[edhopper]

10. Eggsactly

They don't let Penn State booster of the RK fan club spesak with any moral authority.
But corrupt Priest? A different story.

[RZM]

13. Well those aren't religions

Though for some people football is pretty close. I think that's the difference.

[edhopper]

17. So religion gets

a special exemption from the same behavior that is condemned in others?

[RZM]

18. Apparently it does

That's how things work. Not saying it's right or wrong, but there it is.

[Snarkoleptic]

14. They're pro fetus. Once your born, you're fucked.

Carlin 10:13

[customerserviceguy]

19. The media loves a fight

And both sides trot out the RCC hierarchy when it serves their needs. I remember our side doing it in the Eighties when the bishops issued proclamations about nuclear war.

Look, either you accept them as moral authority, or you don't (I don't). You don't get to pull the string only when you think they're going to say something you like.