It's not about *us* vs. *them*. That's how Republicans see the world.

[MannyGoldstein]

We're Democrats because, for us, it's about *right* vs. *wrong*.

The message counts, not the messenger.

[1StrongBlackMan]

1. This empty message ...

brought to you by someone without a mirror, attempting to sound reasonable.

Manny, from what I've read it is all about "Us vs. Them" for you, with "US" being those that "Yup" you and "them" being everyone else.

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Oh yeah?

[1StrongBlackMan]

3. Yeah ...

We can converse ... and likely can agree in/on some things; but don't call for "unity" when that "unity" requires agreement that what you believe is "right" is right. Deal?

Edited to read: "...agreement that what you believe is "right" is right."

[truebluegreen]

5. Back at ya. Deal?

[1StrongBlackMan]

6. Read my post history ...

I have yet to do the "us (meaning: agree with me) vs. them" thing, with respect to Democrats.

[JaneyVee]

4. Sometimes on DU it feels like it's us vs. us.

Although healthy debate is healthy, its been getting downright insulting on here sometimes.

[1StrongBlackMan]

7. True ...

and I would suggest, certain parties are very, very pleased.

[one_voice]

8. Yup..

I love to debate things, I love different points of view. I don't think we should all think alike, but it's getting increasingly uncomfortable to be here.

Could be it's time to move on...

[Hydra]

9. Facts

And a lot of people have been upset about them lately.

Wait, I take that back. I had people back in 2006 arguing with me that we couldn't protest Bush Admin torture orders because we weren't 100% certain they were doing it.

The soma crowd will ALWAYS have a problem with the truth when it disturbs their bubble.