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Source: Think Progress
The Pentagon announced new rules last week easing the ban on women serving in combat. While conservatives like Rick Santorum are a little uneasy with the news, the announcement only formalizes military practices that were already taking place.
But Fox News contributor Liz Trottas commentary on the matter took the issue to a whole other level. Shes not really concerned about the controversy surrounding the Pentagons announcement. For Trotta, the issue is having women once more, the feminist, going, wanting to be warriors and victims at the same time. She cited a recent Pentagon report that violent sex crimes in the military have increased over the last 6 years and said women should expect it, decrying more levels of bureaucracy to support women who have been raped too much:
TROTTA: But while all of this is going on, just a few weeks ago, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta commented on a new Pentagon report on sexual abuse in the military. I think they have actually discovered there is a difference between men and women. And the sexual abuse report says that there has been, since 2006, a 64% increase in violent sexual assaults. Now, what did they expect? These people are in close contact, the whole airing of this issue has never been done by Congress, its strictly been a question of pressure from the feminist.
And the feminists have also directed them, really, to spend a lot of money. They have sexual counselors all over the place, victims advocates, sexual response coordinators. So, you have this whole bureaucracy upon bureaucracy being built up with all kinds of levels of people to support women in the military who are now being raped too much.
Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/02/13/424239/fox-women-miliary-expect-raped/
1ProudAtheist
(346 posts)would you expect from a clown?
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)roving gangs of women go and beat the crap out of people.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)look at her, I'm sure she swooned over that crap back in the day.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)I feel a freaking rant coming on...
Santorum said last week women shouldn't serve in combat because they're too emotional, or some such b/s.
I actually interpreted what he said differently. It sounded to me like he was alleging that women serving beside men was too much temptation for sexual activity. I could be wrong. But usually, I'm not, LOL.
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)demmiblue
(36,837 posts)This just makes me ill.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)They were meant to get married, have lots of babies, and stay home. Maybe this is the Republican plan for job creation. Women to be barefoot and pg, and MEN will take their jobs.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)but I have to admit that I didn't see this full-blown war on women coming. Well, at least how blatant they are about it.
It's disgusting and it's time that women on the right, left, independent...anyone stand up and fight this!
appleannie1
(5,067 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Liz Trotta is a despicable human being.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Is that what he wants us to believe?
tsuki
(11,994 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)"raped too much" ?????? A little rape is okay? Words fail.
kag
(4,079 posts)What is "too much?" Wow. Just wow.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)It's sooooo much easier than fixing the actual problem.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Is there a proper level of rape, in her opinion?
catbyte
(34,364 posts)What's with this Republican war on women? Don't they realize that we actually vote or do they have a secret plot to repeal the 19th Amendment?
Diane
Anishinaabe and voting in MI
niyad
(113,216 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Because just a little bit of rape is okay, I guess...
PatSeg
(47,366 posts)Too much? There is such a thing as "enough" rape? Or acceptable amount of rape?
2012 and there definitely is a war on women. The extreme right is not disguising it behind Pro-life, anti-abortion movements anymore. It is women, it has always been women!
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)That is a universally insulting statement.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Brain dead so-and-so.
tosh
(4,422 posts)The insanity at Faux has reached an all new level.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)chrisa
(4,524 posts)empty and pointless.
highplainsdem
(48,959 posts)See this old topic:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x137586
She's a psychopath.
demmiblue
(36,837 posts)it is amazing that someone can make a comment like that and still have a television/media presence.
I know it is Fox, but...
Mr Dixon
(1,185 posts)WTF tards of FOX SMH
LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)csziggy
(34,135 posts)Because how else would someone as clueless as this female manage to get to the position she holds?
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Perhaps moreso because that ghastly nonsense fell out of a woman's mouth.
The French Resistance dragged collaborators into the streets and shaved their heads. I don't think that's the way to deal with anti-woman women, but damned if the thought doesn't make me smile.
Worried senior
(1,328 posts)and they were lamenting the SS and Medicare situation again, typical rep talking points about how there aren't going to be enough babies born to pay for this. People aren't having as many kids, wonder why, they can't afford them because of the reps wonderful plan for the country.
niyad
(113,216 posts)and oxygen--retire quietly to the obscurity you so truly deserve.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)I thought the spewing of misogynist bullshit was the exclusive realm of MALE assholes.
chowder66
(9,066 posts)and colors and do not discriminate based on gender.
assholes are assholes. She just happens to be a supersized one.
sakabatou
(42,146 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Well, now.
Exactly what is "feminist" about not wanting to get "raped too much" or how about "not at all"? Do we value the lives of women so little that we don't even care about the ones that volunteered to serve our country?
Is she saying that she doesn't support our troops unless they are male and straight? And that it's expected for our male, straight troops to not have any discipline or the ability to control themselves? Because that's exactly what it sounds like to me. Some "patriotic" woman this is.
I honestly hope that we never get into a situation where our nation is invaded and those women who were "raped too much" have to defend her from getting "raped too much" or killed. You just can't help ignorance like that, and any person that would agree with her - that it's too much money to spend on our troops because they should have expected to get raped (and our soldiers should feel justified in raping) - fundamentally lacks humanity to the point where they are empty inside.
Any person that would interview her and not denounce her for making such a horrible, demeaning and disgusting remark about our troops is just as awful as she is.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)"Radical Feminism" is expecting to not be raped while doing your job. I wonder if Liz would be okay if she was raped at her job? I mean, it's such radical feminism to expect not to be raped. I guess it's radical too to expect that children don't get raped by teachers, coaches, and ministers, etc. because they are in close quarters with them.
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)"The Handmaid's Tale" was fiction, you know.
Initech
(100,059 posts)Remember Me
(1,532 posts)I mean, how DARE women take their vaginas out in public and expect anything less?
After all, men simply can't control themselves, so can't be asked, expected, disciplined, begged, coerced, or otherwise made to leave them alone.
Edited to add: The military could do a great deal to curb sexual assaults if they'd outlaw misogynist language during basic training and anywhere else it occurs, but esp. during basic -- calling slow or poorly performing troops popular anti-woman gender slurs, for example.
Bosso 63
(992 posts)and as a result, women who are with them deserve whatever happens.
I don't even know where to start. . . . .
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)she is disgusting
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)At least when gay men, women don't have to worry about being raped.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)So there's an acceptable, expected level of personal rape for each woman?
If there is a Hell, I hope she's condemned to live in the world that she creates in her head.
IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)I work in a company with about 60 men and 6 women. It is an engineering firm. I'm pretty sure this Fox news idiot wouldn't say that I should expect to be raped. Many women are police officers, firefighters, pilots, construction workers and engineers. I have never heard anyone say that they should expect to be raped because they work in close proximity to a lot of men. I can't believe that this woman exists. She is too stupid.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)It will damage your resale value.
It is your responsibility to ensure the appropriate level of rape in your working environment.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)So the old bullshit about "women dressed like THAT are asking to be raped" is now "women going into combat are asking to be raped?"
And what the FUCK is this? "decrying more levels of bureaucracy to support women who have been "raped too much'." First of all ANY rape is too much rape. Second of all, is she bitching about "moar big gubmint" in the middle of a hateful rant that would be disgusting in ANY era of history? Ah, there we see the usual. RW pile of trash wraps complaint about "moar big gubmint" in a social issue and expects to get away with it. If the goddamned "librul mediuh" is so fucking "librul" then why aren't they condemning this extremely radical garbage on the news, every damned night?
usregimechange
(18,373 posts)She needs to resign her job yesterday.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)and any other political cult that has walked this earth. These sociopaths get the time in the spot light, and honestly, it's creeping out even republican voters. These folks on FOX are sick, sick individuals...
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)vile words to describe this piece of shit *********. Fill that in with whatever you want.
Citizen Worker
(1,785 posts)the same to me about rape. Noting that she has never been raped or mistreated in any way by men "even though I've been the only woman in a room full of men for hours at a time." She then posits that, "they must have been asking for it." By the way, she is a Faux News consumer. Surprised? I'm not.
demmiblue
(36,837 posts)A good link here: http://www.alternet.org/world/31584/
What I think Trotta wants us to believe is that it is the fault of feminists that this happens. Because, ya know, some women (feminist identifiers or not) want to serve their country, but just can't handle the the repercussions. And, naturally, rape is something that could possibly be expected in those close quarters. Besides, it costs the US a bundle to set up networks in order to counsel victims of sexual assault. These VICTIMS are costing us money!
Here is a thought, spend an equal amount of money to prevent such assaults. And when they do happen, make the repercussions severe. Extremely severe.