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sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 04:21 PM Feb 2012

Brad Manning has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Sign petition here.

http://act.rootsaction.org/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5459

Let's Get Bradley Manning the Nobel Peace Prize

The Nobel Peace Prize is supposed to go to "the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

Three members of Parliament in Iceland have nominated Bradley Manning and laid out the case:

"Manning is a soldier in the United States army who stands accused of releasing hundreds of thousands of documents to the whistleblower website WikiLeaks. The leaked documents pointed to a long history of corruption, war crimes, and imperialism by the United States government in international dealings. These revelations have fueled democratic uprising around the world, including a democratic revolution in Tunisia. According to journalists, his alleged actions helped motivate the democratic Arab Spring movements, shed light on secret corporate influence on our foreign policies, and most recently contributed to the Obama Administration agreeing to withdraw all U.S.troops from the occupation in Iraq."

Few have done more. A number of previous peace laureates have done far less.

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Brad Manning has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Sign petition here. (Original Post) sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 OP
Terrific! Better Believe It Feb 2012 #1
Winning the superbowl has nothing to do with world peace Weisbergkevin Feb 2012 #2
Good one! Better Believe It Feb 2012 #3
Are you serious? Searching your other posts indicates you may well be. uppityperson Feb 2012 #10
They are joking .... right? Better Believe It Feb 2012 #20
Magic 8 ball says.... uppityperson Feb 2012 #27
good one Go Vols Feb 2012 #47
K&R bahrbearian Feb 2012 #4
I'm happy to send this message TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #5
+1 Vincardog Feb 2012 #12
One, petitions are not recognized by the Nobel committee. TheWraith Feb 2012 #6
Yes, but signing it made me feel good. n/t broiles Feb 2012 #7
And developing the habit of engagement would be bad. EFerrari Feb 2012 #9
An internet petition is not "engagement." It's the opposite of that, actually. TheWraith Feb 2012 #13
Which demonstrates your expertise in the field of habit forming. Thanks again. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #18
you'll need to go ahead and learn there are things you cannot control DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2012 #31
Which is why this petition should never have been started. Xtraneous Feb 2012 #38
And that is just as it should be tavalon Feb 2012 #39
One, you don't have to be recognized by the committee to be influental. Two, see #1 EFerrari Feb 2012 #8
Yeah, it does have to be recognized in order to be influential. TheWraith Feb 2012 #14
Yes, just as the President publicly recognizes everyone who influences him. EFerrari Feb 2012 #19
And you don't have to be for peace to get the prize. Look at Obama. Isn't that right "TheWraith" Better Believe It Feb 2012 #22
You don't know why he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, do you? AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #40
Sad but true Progression Feb 2012 #21
He was nominated by 3 members of the Icelandic Parliament who are qualified Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #53
Indeed. A far more deserving candidate than Obama was. Zhade Feb 2012 #11
Bad, bad Obama. Who was it got Bin Laden again? I doubt he personally is monmouth Feb 2012 #16
You think Obama should get a second peace prize award? How about one for civil liberties! :) Better Believe It Feb 2012 #23
Exactly. progressoid Feb 2012 #33
He is "Commander in Chief". Is there something about that you don't understand? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #34
Can Obama then take credit for Manning's alleged action? Robb Feb 2012 #35
I don't think he would take "credit" for it on a bet. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #36
Well, you've got the 'betrayed his country' part right. AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #41
Oh please surfdog Feb 2012 #15
The Iraqi regime wouldn't let Obama keep his troops in Iraq. They said "get outta here!" Better Believe It Feb 2012 #24
LOL!!! BklnDem75 Feb 2012 #26
It's not a joke. It's been fully documented. Isn't that right? Better Believe It Feb 2012 #28
but perception is more important for some fascisthunter Feb 2012 #30
Documented by those trying to save face and look tough BklnDem75 Feb 2012 #37
!!! AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #42
Happy to do so. But, maybe he should escalate a lost war and send in the drones. Bezukhov Feb 2012 #17
Thanks, will do that. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #25
Along with the Walkers and Aldrich Ames! whistler162 Feb 2012 #29
Three members of the Icelandic Parliament? msanthrope Feb 2012 #32
It was after the volcano name spelling bee jberryhill Feb 2012 #43
Was that before or after the Icelandic Honey making and the Epsom Furniture Races? msanthrope Feb 2012 #44
Signed. LuvNewcastle Feb 2012 #45
Done! montanto Feb 2012 #46
Hey, remember when Rush Limbaugh was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize?... SidDithers Feb 2012 #48
I remember when a guy who escalated a lost war in Afghanistan was nominated and won. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #49
omg I thought you were kidding AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #50
Crazy shit, eh?... SidDithers Feb 2012 #51
high score! AtomicKitten Feb 2012 #52
 

Weisbergkevin

(39 posts)
2. Winning the superbowl has nothing to do with world peace
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 04:23 PM
Feb 2012

I disagree with giving this young man the award. He is simply a good Quarterback.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
6. One, petitions are not recognized by the Nobel committee.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 04:47 PM
Feb 2012

Second, neither are the "nominations" made by outside parties. Being "nominated" carries exactly no weight whatsoever.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
13. An internet petition is not "engagement." It's the opposite of that, actually.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:11 PM
Feb 2012

It's pushing a button to feel like you're doing something without actually doing anything.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
31. you'll need to go ahead and learn there are things you cannot control
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 08:45 PM
Feb 2012

People are going to do what they're going to do, regardless of your exhortations to the contrary. However, I'm glad you pushed buttons in the right sequence to end up posting in the thread anyway. You're always entertaining, if nothing else.

Xtraneous

(94 posts)
38. Which is why this petition should never have been started.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:55 AM
Feb 2012

It's deceptive at best, and as said above, at worst, makes those who sign believe they have done something that will be taken into consideration. What I find entertaining is the continued credibility of this "prize" being held with such high regard. Manning has as much chance of winning this award as Kucinich has to become President- both of which are highly unfortunate for all of us.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
8. One, you don't have to be recognized by the committee to be influental. Two, see #1
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 04:56 PM
Feb 2012

And three, I'll trust RootsAction and not you in this instance. Thanks.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
14. Yeah, it does have to be recognized in order to be influential.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:14 PM
Feb 2012

That's kind of the definition of influential. If the people making the decision don't take it into consideration, it's not "influential." These are fairly basic definitional things, here.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
40. You don't know why he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, do you?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:40 AM
Feb 2012

It's easier to mock pretending you don't know I suppose.

For the record, Pres Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize primarily for his work on and commitment to nuclear disarmament. According to Agot Valle who served on the award committee, they wanted to support Obama's goal of a world without nuclear weapons.




Progression

(30 posts)
21. Sad but true
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:45 PM
Feb 2012

I would not hesitate to sign this petition but I wish it carried some weight. It would be a bit awkward as the former Nobel Peace Prize winner is detaining the future Nobel Peace Prize nominee.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
53. He was nominated by 3 members of the Icelandic Parliament who are qualified
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 03:38 PM
Feb 2012

to nominate a Peace Prize candidate..
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/nomination/

Qualified Nominators

The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize shall, by statute, be enjoyed by:
1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;'
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.

Zhade

(28,702 posts)
11. Indeed. A far more deserving candidate than Obama was.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:04 PM
Feb 2012

I suspect Obama was awarded with great hope for the future of peace with him in office.

Drone attacks and the assassination of an innocent American teenager probably has some who gave it to him feeling pretty let down.

Manning is a true hero, and I hope he gets the recognition he deserves.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
16. Bad, bad Obama. Who was it got Bin Laden again? I doubt he personally is
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:19 PM
Feb 2012

in charge of drone attacks and assassinations but have at it...

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
34. He is "Commander in Chief". Is there something about that you don't understand?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:09 PM
Feb 2012

He is personally responsible for each and every member of the Armed Forces of the United States.

Commander. In. Chief.

Side note... "Who was it got Bin Laden..." You think President Obama did the legwork, the footwork, gathered the intel, and fired the fatal shot don't you.

"Who was it..."? It wasn't President Obama.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
36. I don't think he would take "credit" for it on a bet.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:22 PM
Feb 2012

Those people who are responsible for the security lapses that allowed Manning to betray his country are answerable to everyone up the chain including the Commander in Chief though.

See how that works?

 

surfdog

(624 posts)
15. Oh please
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:15 PM
Feb 2012

Implying that Manning played a part in the president's decision to pull out of Iraq is completely absurd

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
30. but perception is more important for some
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 08:39 PM
Feb 2012

so if I "LOL" you it looks as if you are not to be taken seriously, until I research, then I realize you were right.

But then there are some who know this too well...

BklnDem75

(2,918 posts)
37. Documented by those trying to save face and look tough
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:50 PM
Feb 2012

Keep believing that we'd be out if Obama wanted us to stay. It's a complete joke.

Bezukhov

(11 posts)
17. Happy to do so. But, maybe he should escalate a lost war and send in the drones.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:22 PM
Feb 2012

You know, to have a chance at it.

“What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy.” - Mohandas K. Gandhi

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
44. Was that before or after the Icelandic Honey making and the Epsom Furniture Races?
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:41 PM
Feb 2012

They keep busy there, don't they?

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
49. I remember when a guy who escalated a lost war in Afghanistan was nominated and won.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 04:06 PM
Feb 2012

Not so good times.

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