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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:21 PM Feb 2012

Let's call the Virginia law what it is: State-mandated rape by proxy

Last night Rachel Maddow danced around explaining Virginia's proposed law requiring women wanting abortions to undergo a transvaginal ultrasound. She seemed to have problems even saying the word "vagina" and simply talked about "things inserted into your body".

Let's stop playing word games

This is legally sanctioned rape, end of discussion.

The state is compelling a doctor to perform an unnecessary medical procedure on an unwilling patient in order to get the medical treatment she needs.

The ultrasound probe is the state of Virginia's penis, and it is being used to sexually assault a woman because some sick and depraved politicians wish to demean women the do not approve of.

The woman is coerced into sitting in stirrups and submitting to a legal rape.

These very same sad, old, sexually deviant white men wish to punish any woman seeking an abortion, but you can bet your last dollar that if any of their mistresses or daughters have an "inconvenient" pregnancy, they will never be subject to this official rape. Instead, they will be given an abortion on the sly from a "helpful" doctor, or after a quick trip to Canada or England.

Let me reiterate, because I cannot stress enough the perversion being perpetrated by the Virginia government:

The Commonwealth (oh, the irony) of Virginia will force an unwilling doctor to vaginally rape with a medical instrument, a coerced and unwilling woman.

Folks, The Handmaid's Tale is now close to being a documentary, the Republic of Gilead is nigh.

The phone number for the Virginia governor's office is 804-786-2211

Cross-posted to my blog

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Let's call the Virginia law what it is: State-mandated rape by proxy (Original Post) Kelvin Mace Feb 2012 OP
kelvin, seabeyond Feb 2012 #1
Will do Kelvin Mace Feb 2012 #2
thanks kelvin. appreciate it. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #6
Seabeyond, I'm hoping we can keep this kicked Ilsa Feb 2012 #3
i will better be able to remember with it on feminist and i will see and come over and kick. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #7
K&R and thank you, Kelvin. Ilsa Feb 2012 #4
These people are twisted inside Kelvin Mace Feb 2012 #21
thank you for saying this... handmade34 Feb 2012 #5
It is stunning to wake up in the 15th century Kelvin Mace Feb 2012 #28
K&R replying to bookmark and kick it tomorrow. Whisp Feb 2012 #8
K&R cliffordu Feb 2012 #9
K&R Odin2005 Feb 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Ilsa Feb 2012 #11
Make sure to contact the female spouses of the legislators LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #12
It seems to me that women should go on strike Kelvin Mace Feb 2012 #15
... Mnemosyne Feb 2012 #13
Thank you. Rachel is brilliant but she's also much too compliant. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #14
will this be challeged in court? warrior1 Feb 2012 #16
Pretty much a guarantee Kelvin Mace Feb 2012 #22
It's disgusting and foul. Jester Messiah Feb 2012 #17
Oh they have Kelvin Mace Feb 2012 #23
k&r n/t RainDog Feb 2012 #18
That is what I thought when they do not even ask the woman's permission. jwirr Feb 2012 #19
The psychological and emotional protect our future Feb 2012 #20
They are perfectly aware of what they are doing Kelvin Mace Feb 2012 #24
No, I don't believe the men protect our future Feb 2012 #25
My experience with these type Kelvin Mace Feb 2012 #27
Most of my friends are men. protect our future Feb 2012 #29
This is a total perversion. Uggggh.... glinda Feb 2012 #26
kick Whisp Feb 2012 #30
Penetration without concent is rape. There is no other definition. jwirr Feb 2012 #31
Does it do any good to call if you are not a Virginia resident? jwirr Feb 2012 #32
K&R catchnrelease Feb 2012 #33
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. kelvin,
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:26 PM
Feb 2012

would you mind posting this in the feminist forum for us so we can be sure to call tomorrow. the board is way slower than GD and will stay visible longer.

i would appreciate. if not i will do it in the morning if i remember. not good at that memory thing

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
3. Seabeyond, I'm hoping we can keep this kicked
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:38 PM
Feb 2012

long enough to keep it visible so people can call tomorrow.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
7. i will better be able to remember with it on feminist and i will see and come over and kick. nt
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 12:03 AM
Feb 2012

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
4. K&R and thank you, Kelvin.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:40 PM
Feb 2012

I had wanted to post something, but I've had too many distractions with my kids to funnel my anger in to a coherent writing. You nailed it: Rape By Proxy. The legislators are wanna-be rapists. They are closed-minded, vicious misogynists.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
21. These people are twisted inside
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 06:42 PM
Feb 2012

Somewhere along the line their sexuality was distorted by religion (I have yet to meet an atheist that supports things like this) and this is how they get their jollies.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
5. thank you for saying this...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:42 PM
Feb 2012

I was fortunate enough to have delivered all of my children at home by a midwife...

I am horrified by the possibility of this becoming law that other women must be subjected to

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
28. It is stunning to wake up in the 15th century
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 09:35 AM
Feb 2012

That said, I am rather bothered that this post got very little traction here.

Response to Kelvin Mace (Original post)

LiberalFighter

(50,871 posts)
12. Make sure to contact the female spouses of the legislators
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 12:55 AM
Feb 2012

and let them know about the legislation they are trying to pass.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
22. Pretty much a guarantee
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 06:45 PM
Feb 2012

The other point of this bill is to get Roe overturned by the SCOTUS.

A similar bill passed in Texas and is under appeal, but is in force in the mean time.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
17. It's disgusting and foul.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 12:18 PM
Feb 2012

Do these knuckle-dragging swine have no wives, no sisters, no daughters? How can they do this to them?

Oh wait, I forgot. If it happens to THEIR family members, they take care of it discretely, out of state. It's fine for them and theirs, just not for us and ours. Damn it but I hate these bastards. There aren't words enough to capture the depth of my hatred.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
23. Oh they have
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 06:46 PM
Feb 2012

wives (probably more than one), daughters and sisters.

And we should mourn for these women who must deal with these men.

protect our future

(1,156 posts)
20. The psychological and emotional
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 05:03 PM
Feb 2012

implications, should this become law, could very well lead to sudden problems in the bedroom. Has anyone realized that yet?

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
24. They are perfectly aware of what they are doing
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 06:48 PM
Feb 2012

and they do not care.

The only way we can stop this is to start making it VERY hot for McDonnell. Start attaching the title "Rapist-in-Chief to his name.

protect our future

(1,156 posts)
25. No, I don't believe the men
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:52 PM
Feb 2012

responsible for this legislation have thought that far ahead. I think there may be a wave of headaches and other reasons for women to refuse sex if this becomes law, as fear and anger will take their toll.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
27. My experience with these type
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 09:31 AM
Feb 2012

is they don't think, PERIOD.

I am getting cynical in my old age, but being a man, and spending time with many males of this type makes me so. I have so very little in common with these people, that most of my friends are women (about a 5:2 ratio, and I include my wife). Looking back over my lifetime, male friends are rare.

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