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malaise

(268,571 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 07:42 AM Feb 2012

Bwaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahha Rmoney has a gay immigration problem

That Ariz sheriff was a co-chair in the Romney campaign - he has admitted that he is gay and has resigned from the campaign- hahahahaha
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Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu on Saturday denied allegations that he and his attorney threatened to deport a Mexican former boyfriend of Babeu's unless the man agreed not to disclose the relationship.

Babeu said the allegations are "completely false" and the only information mentioned in a Phoenix New Times article that's true is "I'm gay."

Babeu on Saturday quit his position as an Arizona co-chairman of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.

"Sheriff Babeu has stepped down from his volunteer position with the campaign so he can focus on the allegations against him," Romney spokesman Ryan Williams told The Republic in a statement. "We support his decision."

Babeu recently appeared at a Romney event with former vice president Dan Quayle in Paradise Valley.

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This is freaking delish!!
Please note that he did not wear his 'gayness' on his sleeve. He just supported folks who deny gays their human rights.

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Bwaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahha Rmoney has a gay immigration problem (Original Post) malaise Feb 2012 OP
You're right! __ studboi1 __ "did not wear his 'gayness' on his sleeve" liberalla Feb 2012 #1
Too good malaise Feb 2012 #4
I thought I read this morning that he is running for Congress too. n/t BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #2
That's mentioned at this link as well malaise Feb 2012 #5
his website: liberalla Feb 2012 #7
Two hot R/W election issues for the price of one! Surya Gayatri Feb 2012 #3
And that is why this is delish!! malaise Feb 2012 #31
How did Babeu pass the purity test? This is a serious breach. Not funny. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2012 #6
What's sad is that people think this is funny justiceischeap Feb 2012 #8
Did he lose his campaign position because he's gay, or because of the scandal? Jim Lane Feb 2012 #9
One could argue the case that if he weren't afraid to be openly gay justiceischeap Feb 2012 #12
karma perhaps, but not funny eShirl Feb 2012 #10
I'm gay too and this dickhead deserves everything that's happening to him. ibegurpard Feb 2012 #11
His hypocrisy should have nothing to do with his sexuality is my point justiceischeap Feb 2012 #14
Being gay is not the problem Aerows Feb 2012 #13
Yet, the OP made it about being gay justiceischeap Feb 2012 #15
I agree with you Aerows Feb 2012 #21
I don't feel sorry for this guy at all justiceischeap Feb 2012 #28
I think we need to lower our sensitivity meter at some point Aerows Feb 2012 #30
Oh and he can't live openly? Aerows Feb 2012 #32
He and his party made it the issue, not malaise. EFerrari Feb 2012 #34
There are lots more things about this guy that will come out later sammytko Feb 2012 #16
The Puroll story - lots of interesting stories on this site - it broke the babe story on Friday sammytko Feb 2012 #17
More stories about babue sammytko Feb 2012 #18
I have no problem with this guy getting the boot/stepping down justiceischeap Feb 2012 #20
Why does he have to hide? Because he moved to Arizona? sammytko Feb 2012 #23
Actually, I do see sadness in this situation... liberalla Feb 2012 #25
On a sad note - he was abused by a Catholic priest sammytko Feb 2012 #27
Sad indeed malaise Feb 2012 #35
Yeah, whatev. originalpckelly Feb 2012 #19
The Sheriff only admitted to being gay as a result of this scandal malaise Feb 2012 #29
what would the media be saying if onethatcares Feb 2012 #22
And John McCain just used Babeu in an ad for building the fence MiniMe Feb 2012 #24
I don't think this will hurt Romney too much. hughee99 Feb 2012 #26
I don't understand how this guy can be a republican in the first place! CTyankee Feb 2012 #33

liberalla

(9,215 posts)
1. You're right! __ studboi1 __ "did not wear his 'gayness' on his sleeve"
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:02 AM
Feb 2012

and by his own admission (or advertisement) he described
himself as "str8 acting"





OMG, studboi1 --- was his user name

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
3. Two hot R/W election issues for the price of one!
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:28 AM
Feb 2012

"Gay Agenda"... + "Immigrant Amnesty"...

Wow! You couldn't write this into a Hollywood screenplay!
SG

TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
6. How did Babeu pass the purity test? This is a serious breach. Not funny.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:31 AM
Feb 2012

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha. *phew* bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. *phew* bwahahahahahahahahahaha..............

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
8. What's sad is that people think this is funny
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:35 AM
Feb 2012

Yes, I get it's all about hypocrisy but the fact that a sheriff turned out to be gay really shouldn't be a reason to lose your job or position in a campaign. Nor should it be something to laugh about here. Instead of having a good chuckle over it, we should be outraged that the only reason this happened is because to most, it's not okay to be openly gay in this country.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
9. Did he lose his campaign position because he's gay, or because of the scandal?
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:54 AM
Feb 2012

Suppose that a campaign's state co-chair were a straight male sheriff, who threatened to deport an ex-lover unless she kept quiet about the relationship, and the whole mess came to light. My guess is that the campaign would quietly tell the guy to step down.

I will agree with you that, in a borderline case, a campaign (especially a Republican campaign) would be more likely to throw a gay supporter overboard. It isn't really borderline, though, when a public official is accused of misusing the power of his or her office to gain a personal advantage.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
12. One could argue the case that if he weren't afraid to be openly gay
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:04 AM
Feb 2012

then he wouldn't have created the scandal. It's the argument that some use that say you can't hold certain political or federal law enforcement positions because being homosexual could be used to blackmail you. If we turn the argument on its head, if some people didn't make a big deal about sexuality, there would be no need for a scandal in the first place.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
11. I'm gay too and this dickhead deserves everything that's happening to him.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:03 AM
Feb 2012

Making an issue out of illegal immigration while you're sleeping with a Mexican boy-toy? What a scumbag!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
14. His hypocrisy should have nothing to do with his sexuality is my point
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:07 AM
Feb 2012

His sexuality should have never been pulled into it in the first place. If it wasn't so awful to be gay in the United States, half of the scandals wouldn't be scandals any longer. That's the only point I'm making here.

I find fault with your statement: "Making an issue out of illegal immigration while you're sleeping with a Mexican boy-toy?"

Why not stop at: "Making an issue out of illegal immigration while you're sleeping with a Mexican?" <-- That is the real issue... not that the mexican is a male, IMO.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. Being gay is not the problem
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:04 AM
Feb 2012

If the man was an illegal immigrant, that makes this guy a hypocrite for having a relationship with him while harping about illegal immigration. If the man was a legal immigrant, then abusing his position to threaten him is criminal.

That's what the problem is.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
15. Yet, the OP made it about being gay
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:09 AM
Feb 2012

"Bwaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahha Rmoney has a gay immigration problem" *emphasis mine

I get all the nuances of what's going on... I see all the hypocrisy involved. My point, is that the sheriff being gay should not be the issue, yet some continue to bring it up. I understand this also points to his hypocrisy but if we didn't demonize being gay in the US, this wouldn't be an issue.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. I agree with you
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:51 AM
Feb 2012

But I really don't feel to sorry for gay people who continuously endorse and vote for people who hold them in open contempt (note I'm a lesbian so I certainly have a horse in this race).

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
28. I don't feel sorry for this guy at all
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 12:59 PM
Feb 2012

I'm just bothered by the attitude in America that makes this guy think he can't live openly... and more importantly how that reflects on other LGBTQ people in the community and young kids that are still getting the message that this guy is in trouble because he's gay--since that's how it's being framed by some media outlets--even though we know that's not why he's in trouble.

( I'm a lesbian too )

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
30. I think we need to lower our sensitivity meter at some point
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 06:52 PM
Feb 2012

And accept the fact that we can't accept every gay person's actions in the political arena just because they are gay. That is also a step toward equality. He screwed up on immigration, and by possibly exploiting a lover.

I wouldn't feel any different if he would have been straight and this would have been a woman.

I get what you are saying, but we can't stop chastising gay people for bad behavior just because they are gay. What he did was wrong all the way around, and I'm not passing judgment because he's a gay man - I'm passing judgment because he's a law enforcer and did a bad thing.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. Oh and he can't live openly?
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 06:54 PM
Feb 2012

Well, he can thank the political party he supports for that. Barney Frank is out, and he does fine because he's not hiding it, and he's not championing policies that discriminate against gay people.

If he can't live openly, he needs to realize that he himself is part of the reason why.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
34. He and his party made it the issue, not malaise.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 07:00 PM
Feb 2012

Yes, he deserves all the opprobrium heaped on him for actively working against equality.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
16. There are lots more things about this guy that will come out later
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:40 AM
Feb 2012

His friend and deputy Puroll, lied about being attacked by Mexican cartel members in the desert.

He was the headmaster of a scandal plagued alternative school in the east run by Michael DeSisto.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
20. I have no problem with this guy getting the boot/stepping down
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:49 AM
Feb 2012

It's obvious he was corrupt and a hypocrite and I understand that Rmoney would rightly ask him to step away.

The issue with me is his need to hide his homosexuality, which may have led to some of his actions. If he hadn't had to hide his homosexuality, if the party that he supports actually supported the core of who he is, I suspect some of the things we're reading about wouldn't be issues. These are some of the things that happens when you have to hide your homosexuality--the people often get caught up in huge scandals.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
23. Why does he have to hide? Because he moved to Arizona?
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:00 AM
Feb 2012

He was from Vermont and Massachusetts. Did he move to Arizona to play out some tough guy sheriff role? Wouldn't he be more able to be himself back east?

Also he was or is a major in the army national guard. Did he embrace DADT. Was he glad when it was overturned?

liberalla

(9,215 posts)
25. Actually, I do see sadness in this situation...
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:38 AM
Feb 2012

but I also see hypocrisy, humor, irony and a karmic aspect.

It was refreshing that he came out and owned it as openly as he did yesterday. Too bad he couldn't have done it sooner by choice, and avoided this situation altogether. The needing to hide, needing to lie, threatening the boyfriend to keep secret, etc... It's a sad way to live.

So what does he do? He goes 'all in' with the GOP. Trying to be that uber conservative, law and order, military, patriot guy they all adore (and trying to hide his real self.) He attended and spoke at CPAC last week, for Gawd's sake!
http://www.sheriffpaul.com/sheriff-paul-babeu-speaks-at-cpac-2012/ Yes, it's sad.

originalpckelly

(24,382 posts)
19. Yeah, whatev.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:45 AM
Feb 2012

It is not a problem for a large number of people in America. Most young people around 80% are cool with it.

It's the old white people, to whom this sick prick was pandering, who don't like it.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

malaise

(268,571 posts)
29. The Sheriff only admitted to being gay as a result of this scandal
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 03:01 PM
Feb 2012

He said that was his private business but does not share the same view re others.
He's a hypocrite on more than one count

onethatcares

(16,160 posts)
22. what would the media be saying if
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:53 AM
Feb 2012

this was about a Democratic co chair of a presidential campaign?

Just wondering aloud here.

MiniMe

(21,706 posts)
24. And John McCain just used Babeu in an ad for building the fence
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:31 AM
Feb 2012

I wonder how fast his campaign will pull that ad?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
26. I don't think this will hurt Romney too much.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:39 AM
Feb 2012

This guy is one person on one state committee. It's not like Romney nominated him to run the ICE.

CTyankee

(63,880 posts)
33. I don't understand how this guy can be a republican in the first place!
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 06:58 PM
Feb 2012

Does he just not see that he is trying to smother his own identity by belonging to this life-crushing group of psychopaths called the republican party? It is literally killing people, gays and women thru their destructive policies that deny people their right to exist fully in society!

dear god...

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