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ebruary 19, 2012, 11:36 AM
Santorum Defends Comments on Obama and Education
By THE NEW YORK TIMES
Rick Santorum on Sunday tried to clarify his comment that President Obama subscribed to a phony ideology, saying he was referring not to the presidents faith but to his view of mans relationship to the world.
I wasnt suggesting that the presidents not a Christian, he said with a laugh on CBSs Face the Nation.
But he suggested that anyone who believes that the protection of natural resources is more important than satisfying mans needs and man, he said, could be a good steward of the Earth was pursuing a phony ideal.
The Earth is not the objective, man is the objective, and I think that a lot of radical environmentalists have it upside down, Mr. Santorum said.
more:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/santorum-defends-comments-on-obama-and-education/
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Mz Pip
(27,439 posts)It sound like babble to me. Man isn't going to last indefinitely if we don't pay attention to what we are doing to the planet. It's not either/or.
BootinUp
(47,139 posts)Sure... thats what he meant. It was about environmentalists.
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)If someone told him there were only a handful of critically endangered species X left, he'd probably want to go hunt them for his trophy wall.
Yeah, try ignoring the ecosystem and environmental some more and see how humanity fares. I think we're probably already on the verge of an "extinction level" environmental crisis.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)What a moron.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)what will man do? Environmentalists are the ones with the long-term objectives in mind.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)n/t
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)dumbass. <-----Santorum
opihimoimoi
(52,426 posts)course from that aspect..
The Oval office requires much more than "...Man is the Objective.".;..
He reeks of ineptness....too widdle too late...not ready for prime time....poor choice...
airplaneman
(1,239 posts)I believe this Earth is for all the living things on it. I have compassion for all living animals and plants including humans. It is my dream that we will value human life before money and compassionalely help each other in the path of life with tolerance and ignorance fee. We need to get back closer to the earth and value the simple things and care about our environment in all its majestic forms. That include caring about global warming. I expect Santorum to say next the sun revolves around the Earth, that he will not fix any injustice as Jesus is coming and will do that. He is clearlyl another pawn for the rich 1%. I am discusted with this guy and the GOP in gereral. May they all be voted out forever.
-Airplane
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)he slipped up...let his true alien self show! "man is the objective"...to subdue and assimilate them for their evil use!
BootinUp
(47,139 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Whereas, the poor, dumb, innocuous, sponge has been around for about 630 million years and will probably still be thriving long after our brief stay here is complete.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)let me quote one of my favorite short stories ever "For a breath I tarry" by Roger Zelazny, from the collection "The Last Defender of Camelot" (the title story of which was made into an episode of the New Twilight Zone)
The story is about a post apocalyptic world. Humanity has been wiped out, but self-replicating machines remain on earth. One is Solcom, a satellite based computer. When Solcom was damaged, Divcom, the earth based back-up was activated. Then Solcom repaired itself, but Divcom refused to de-activate and the two operate as adversaries. Frost, is the machine what runs the northern hemisphere under Solcom. Frost begines to study humanity, and then develops a plan to clone a human and transfer "his" awareness into it. Solcom gets nervous about this, and they argue...
Solcom continues ..,.
"Frost, you are now fallen from my favor. From this moment forth, you are cast out from the rebuilding. None may question the plan."
"Then at least answer my questions: What good is it? What is it for?
"It is the plan for rebuilding and maintenance of the Earth."
"For what? Why rebuild? Why maintain?"
"Because Man ordered that this be done. Even the Alternate agrees that there must be rebuilding and maintaining."
"But why did Man order it?"
"The orders of Man are not to be questioned."
"Well, I will tell you why He ordered it: To make it a fit habitation for his own species."
Some there are on the left, who would make snail darters more important than people. Who would make trees and rocks more important than people. I had a neighbor tell me that humanity could become extinct and the earth would keep right on going, like that was somehow profound, or meant that the human race did not matter, or should not matter, even to ourselves, that Mother Nature was primary.
Not me, I would put humanity first. Mother Nature only matters to me, because people need a functioning biosphere to survive.
LuvLoogie
(6,991 posts)You sound like the teenage sociopath who kills his mother for the money in her purse so he can buy a new xbox game.
LuvLoogie
(6,991 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)If god created everything why is it okay to destroy creations of god??
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)This planet existed for eons before we showed up.
It will continue for eons after we are a bad memory.
NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)I agree that we should put humanity first, just because I'm human. However, there is much we don't understand and will never understand about the delicate eco-balance that allows this functioning bio-sphere. You say that some people "who would make snail darters more important than people. Who would make trees and rocks more important than people." That is not true. In most cases we are talking about a short-term convenience vs. the existence of a species - whose importance to our own survival is unkown to us.
I refer you to John Donnes's Meditation XVII, "No man is an island...."
Everything we do has consequences.
BadgerKid
(4,550 posts)The conservative view of "man is the objective" translates to "I (or we) are the objective":
He who has the most wins.
Beat before being beaten.
You're either with us or against us.
To get control of people, control the resources on which they depend.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I'd say "Jesus H. Fucking Christ", but Mr. Frothy would take that as serious.
lukkadairish
(122 posts)"You shall not pollute the land in which you live.... You shall not defile the land in which you live, in which I also dwell; for I the LORD dwell among the Israelites." (Numbers 35:33-34)
Seems that he is the upside down dude
lumpy
(13,704 posts)Clearly Santorum is an unbalanced zealot since he has the audacity to question anyone's faith or social position. I think he is a dangerous person, bordering on megalomania; no way should he be in a decision making or leadership position.
renie408
(9,854 posts)just like he sees no problem with the rape of women...it's all just a gift from God.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)You little man
Show us the facts to back up your statements
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)an adversarial relationship. The goal of environmentalists is not to favor the needs of the planet over the needs of man, it is to find ways for each to complement the other.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)he's still trying.
mick063
(2,424 posts)Really? Could have fooled me.
The earth is too far gone to save unless population pressures are brought under control.
One brilliant way to tackle that problem is to use an asprin between the knees of females.
Another in a long line of brilliant "man first" ideas.
BattyDem
(11,075 posts)Without it, man won't have to worry about any other needs.