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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Santorum deliberately trying to lose this race?
Here is Michigan being offered to him on a platter. All he has to do is to stay on message, stay conservative on a few social issues, make no waves, and through a few left jabs and maybe an uppercut aimed at that glass jaw of Willard Romney.
Instead, he has stepped into doggie piles with both feet, with a splat heard around the world. For years I suspected that Rickie was:
a. dumber than a box of small, sharp edged, hand sized, igneous formations
b. Opus Dei (which is simple way of restating a.)
c. truly blinded by his faith, to the extent that his sanity might seriously be questioned.
But the latest display of santorum spew has shocked and surprised even someone as jaded and sarcastic as me. If I didn't know (or think I knew) better, It would seem to me that at the same time that Rickie is doing his best to cut Romney's legs from underneath him, he is trying just as hard to come in second for the convention.
I really don't get it. He might even snatch defeat from the maws of victory. It was his to lose, and he may just succeed.
Siwsan
(26,257 posts)Although I strongly suspect that, just below the surface, there is something more than impaired sanity. Someone that self-righteous is usuallly trying to hide something.
asjr
(10,479 posts)Pope of the USA. When we see the white smoke we will realize his lackeys have voted him in.
wandy
(3,539 posts)I more or less prefer St. Santorum. Old line but, just Google it.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=329976
meant to add the h/t on my original post...but I forgot.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)as bad or worst than even Gingrich. And the media is carefully stroking his outsized ego to let him go full bore.
With the media having caught onto this zealous freak, they will continue promoting him endlessly to gain the eyeballs for their coverage of the elections. But this is only guaranteeing his eventual downfall.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)90% of Catholics don't go for this shit. This guy is more religious than the Pope.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Third, it wont be up to him. IMO if he really becomes a threat, Rove will take him down and he will drop faster than The Newt.
The oligarchs want Rmoney or possibly Jeb. Sanitorium is just drifting in the wind.
This is my opinion that I offer free of charge, no money back guarantees.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Could it be that Rove knows the whole clown car is doomed this year, and they should be planning for 2016?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)If not, they will go with Mit-Schmit, if so, Jeb will emerge as the savior.
I dont think the oligarchs are afraid of a constitutional amendment to fix Citizens United. I am sure they feel they can easily derail it with their unlimited funds.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)to believe he can come in and in two months build a campaign that could beat the Obama machine. All serious candidates are keeping their powder dry.
And what about the base? GOP writes them off once and for all?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)And what about the GOP base? They will follow along with whatever their authoritarian leaders tell them.
As far as two months to "build a campaign", other than Rmoney, none of the other candidates have a campaign built. And the Rmoney campaign could easily be switched to Jeb Bush, the smart son.
R-con voters will vote for literally anyone but Obama.
The R-con candidate will have billions behind HIM.
They only have to keep it close enough to steal.
For those reasons, the oligarchs may decide to go for it.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)Will the base follow the moderates at the convention....my guess is no, and that is where the possibility of a third party comes in. We get to watch a party in a middle of a civil war for power. This may get real interesting after Michigan
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)If they decide to wait until 2016 to make their solid bid, then they will sow hate and destruction and Sanitorium will be the candidate. If they decide to go for it, they will bring in a moderate at the convention and the authoritarians will fall in place.
But it's early in the day. By this afternoon, I will have a different outlook.
Have a good day.
Ship of Fools
(1,453 posts)I don't understand this talk about how Jeb or Christie, etc., would not have enough time to get
out there, get organized, blah blah blah. Maybe TPTB have decided to let them kill each other off, and then march
someone out as the more moderate/old-school R's and non-Obama indies swooned with relief.
Wouldn't the level of excitement be off the charts?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)when questioned by a pundit a few days ago. Made me wonder.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I hope they put him in a pet carrier on the roof of their bus.
ecstatic
(32,679 posts)due to Santorum & Co.'s crazy statements over the past few days. Is it really that hard to STFU for just a week?
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)He's avoiding the press (still), sunday talk shows, and debates. Hiding out in the open, as it were. It does seem to be a good plan when your main opposition is Santorum.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)The more he talks, the more he says.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)That, more than anything else, gives me the creeps. (the content doesn't hurt any, either)
KansDem
(28,498 posts)He's just a sacrifice. No self-respecting Republican will take on a popular Obama in the wake of W's colosial fuck-ups.
They're looking to 2016...
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)because it draws contrast between him (a man of conviction) and Mitt the flipper.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)theocrat that no doubt thinks he is doing the work of jeebus.
2banon
(7,321 posts)don't ever underestimate the power of ignorance and religious fanaticism..
I figured it was impossible for that clown to "elected" ...
Of course I wasn't aware at the time of the ability to manipulate voting machines and engineer election results on a national scale.
Santorum should be in a Sanitarium.. but he could be TPTB's next figure head.
BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)He's WAY too unstable like Gingrich, and too much of a wild card to be a sock puppet. Rmoney on the other hand, is the perfect ventriloquist for them, assuming they can cheat him through the primaries.
With nearly every repuke primary to date having been contested due to massive election fraud, they seem to have been trying out different methods of stealing an election without being caught, but haven't quite found the right formula... at least yet.
Kurmudgeon
(1,751 posts)I'm much more concerned about 2016 than I am 2012.
Though go vote anyway, don't leave anything to chance.
Don't forget, Congress, especially the House of Representatives, needs a good cleaning out of right wing stank.
dickthegrouch
(3,172 posts)If they eat themselves alive it's all the better for us.
I still wonder why no-one's been arrested after all the accusations of wrong-doing. That should eliminate a few more from the race.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)What's that line from Being There?
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)"I like to watch."
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)All things considered that formula has served him quite well. It gave him a very successful law career, four years in the U.S. House of Representatives and then twelve years in the U.S. Senate and then a VERY successful lobbying career. And now he leads the polls for the Republican Party nomination. That's pretty impressive. However - I honestly don't think he has any idea just how marginal his views are. Most right-wing social conservatives don't. They truly believe that they represent the great silent majority of ordinary decent Americans. And except for his one loss in 2008 - he has not had any real reason to question that assumption. I wish him well in his efforts to win the Republican nomination. Let reality crash down upon his head in November.
killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)He's a real piece of work.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)All he had to do was repeat, over and over, "I'm the true conservative in this race." Mention his gramps in the coal mines and spread the Santorum that he's a blue collar working Republican stiff, just like them. Stay away from the extremist language and theocratic messaging. But, no, Rick's inclination is to focus on the religious message. I really don't know why...his pollsters/handlers have to know that this message certainly will hurt him in the GE...and is even starting to hurt him in the primary. I really don't think Rick got into this race to win...I think he was angling to raise is name recognition, either for a VP slot or maybe to sell books or get some cushy sinecure in one of the endless rightwing bullshit manufacturing plants.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)all the repubes know this is a throw-away election year. President Obama has it in the bag by a long shot. They also know whoever runs as a Repube in 2016 has a good chance to win due to the Repube-Democrat-Repube-Democrat pendulum.
Whoever runs against President Obama this year has about a 5% chance of winning, while a Repube in 2016 realistically has probably a 60% chance of winning.
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)If Santorum wins the nomination, this pretty much means that the GOP is now 100% a right wing Christian extremist political movement. With his no doubt massive loss in the Presidential contest, this will drive RW Christians mad with rage and they will turn to violence.
What is clear....Christian Extremists are real and they are armed....and when their candidate and party are resoundingly squashed buy the voting public they will react in the only way their narrow stupid minds will allow....
rug
(82,333 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)A lot of Thugs are similarly deluded.