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http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/20/10459213-silent-protest-outside-virginia-house-puts-off-ultrasound-voteSilent protest outside, Virginia House puts off ultrasound vote
By Laura Conaway
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Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:14 PM EST
What appears to be a crowd of several hundred people gathered today at the Virginia state capitol. Standing silently in the cold, they lined the walkway used by the legislators who have been voting on -- and voting away -- women's rights in Virginia.
From their Facebook page:
A new poll out today from the Christopher Newport University and the Richmond Times-Dispatch shows Virginia's Republican majority to the right of Virginians. About 55 percent of them say they don't like the measure that would require women seeking an abortion to first undergo a medically unnecessary transvaginal ultrasound. The Richmond paper reports the House was to vote on the bill today, but its patron chose instead to hold off for the day.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)yellerpup
(12,253 posts)Show up, stand up, and we'll win.
woodsprite
(11,911 posts)and changed her mind about the abortion sue their asses if there was a miscarriage after rooting around in there with the ultrasound. I've had them (infertility treatments and IVF) and they usually are not very gentle when prodding around with that stick.
Brettongarcia
(2,262 posts)What if you don't want the ultrasound? But they stick it in you anyway?
There's a very good case here, for a rape case.
woodsprite
(11,911 posts)I just can't help but thinking there are a whole lot of pervert repubs getting off on the whole idea of forcing women to have this done.
I hated having to have them done, but it was a necessity in my case. We tried for 4 yrs. Thankfully, our successful, single embryo-transfer kidcicle is now 11 yrs old and just made honor roll for the 2nd marking period
annabanana
(52,791 posts)They'll remember this, I think.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I'm being persuaded that these maniacs will stop at nothing. And it's not such a big jump from outlawing speaking or holding signs at a demonstration to outlawing the mass gathering. Heck, now that 9/11 has changed everything, we don't need a First Amendment anymore, and anyone who says otherwise is clearly some kind of terrorist.
When last checked, the remains of Thomas Jefferson were spinning at approximately 4,500 rpm in his grave.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)I had an ultrasound in 1981 of my 5 week embryo in my fallopian tube. Actually, I asked to see it and the catholic hospital didn't want me to see it. Why? Because at 5 weeks it doesn't look HUMAN. I was already a mother and had seen many, many pictures in my doctor's office. At that early stage, it looked like a kidney bean. You cannot an early human embryo from a pig or a dog embryo because there are no little head, little arms, legs, etc. Women who already ARE mothers, know exactly what is going on.
This procedure is just for humiliation.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)With hundreds protesting outside the Capitol, the House of Delegates delayed multiple contentious bills that appeared poised for final passage today.
The chamber pushed back votes on a measure that would require an ultrasound of all women considering an abortion as well as adoption- and gun-related legislation.
All three were Senate bills, meaning House passage would ensure that they go to Gov. Bob McDonnells desk. The House has already passed similar versions of each.
Senate Bill 484, sponsored by Sen. Jill Holtzman Vogel, R-Fauquier, would require an ultrasound of every female seeking an abortion and the opportunity to view the image of her fetus prior to the procedure.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/news/2012/feb/20/5/hundreds-at-capitol-for-womens-rights-rally-ar-1702583/
babylonsister
(171,057 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)That's like a turkey sponsoring a resolution declaring Thanksgiving Day a holiday.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)a recent author noted women led the fight trying to control other women's sexuality as well as their access to equal rights in the workplace and elsewhere.
and if a woman holds religious beliefs that consign her to permanent second-class status and incorporates this into her life, unconsciously, she probably gets some sort of sadistic satisfaction in attempting to consign all women to her worldview.
...another reason I find monotheisms noxious.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)emsimon33
(3,128 posts)As a Virginian (living in California at the moment or I would be standing right there in the snow with my fellow Virginians), I am so embarrassed by the General Assembly and governor of Virginia.
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)I sure wouldn't spend any money in the state. In and out, full tank of gas bought somewhere else and bring my own sandwiches and coffee. Ugh.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Richmond, VA is one of the crappiest towns I've ever worked in. I couldn't stand it. I'd hate to have to live in it. Yuk!
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)every fiber of me screams against it
CTyankee
(63,903 posts)was one of 3 states that finished ERA off. I have never forgiven the state for that.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)If there is a nationwide protest, I will be there.
lark
(23,094 posts)This isn't about coeercing and raping just the women of VA, they want this right everywhere. RW'ers are at heart women haters because women represent life and sex and they hate that.
They want to return us to the middle ages where the church and state ruled everything and the peasants had no rights whatsoever. That's the real goal.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)next day.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)marlakay
(11,451 posts)And this seems to be the time...they are soooo stupid. Polls for Obama going up this week over just this one issue..what are they thinking the good little republican women will do and vote what they say?
Votes are in secret so even if they said they would vote R I bet a bunch don't!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Silence... the ultra sound!
The Last Democrat
(73 posts)curtains around the voting both so republicans can vote for the democrats and not be seen doing it. LOL
tblue37
(65,336 posts)and her walk of shame through rows silent protesters following the infamous pepper spraying incident?
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)That was the first thing I thought of when reading the OP but I was too tired tonight to hunt up the video.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)You almost feel a tension and a sadness from the silence of so many people.
evilhime
(326 posts)and we were looking for a house, I asked my husband why don't we look in VA, since that's where he worked. He said that he needed to live in a blue state, that VA was just too radical for him. I am so glad we live in MD.
underpants
(182,778 posts)I had the day off - I should have known that this was going on.
GREAT for them.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)ThinkProgress @thinkprogress
POLL: 55% of Virginians oppose requiring women to undergo ultrasound prior to abortion, 36% support thkpr.gs/xmVpSo
http://twitter.com/thinkprogress/status/171742189603389440
Article below...
Poll finds most Virginians oppose changes in abortion, gun laws
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/virginia-politics/2012/feb/19/tdmain01-poll-finds-most-back-status-quo-ar-1700089/
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)obey their constituents.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)It is clear this is nothing but an attempt to punish and humiliate women. Sick monsters.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)tomorrow there will be a no standing in silence rule. i want to say something about the people who keep voting republican but all that comes to mind are vulgarities about the brain-dead ret.... i cant do it.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)and replace with progressive women. Then write a law stating that before a man can obtain any enhancement drug first he must undergo an anul probe.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)I like what you're getting at - the anal probe for erectile dysfunction drugs ... an anal probe is unnecessary to determine whether ED drugs are necessary.
If however someone was to put some extra legislation on ED drugs (and it probably should) - I'd say that any man who needs to be prescribed an ED drug needs to undergo various tests - cardiogram, blood tests for heart problems... I am not a medical expert but from my reading I learned that people who require ED drugs usually have some other heart problems and blood circulatory issues. Might have hormonal issues (low testosterone).
FWIW my employer pays for any female contracreption considered medically necessary but does not cover ED drugs, even if medically necessary.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,593 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Thanks for posting.
Who decided that the protesters "cannot assemble, hold signs, chant, yell or protest?" What the hell? Is this not in violation of our most basic rights as American citizens?
angrychair
(8,697 posts)with all the things these so-called learned men could be doing and they make this issue HB1 and their very first action item of the term? With all the things that deserves this much attention and time that could improve our economy or schools here in Virginia, this is what they consider more important? Virginia used to be a much better place to live than it is now. The whole thing just makes me sad on so many levels.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)yes INDEED
spicegal
(758 posts)They put it off, but according to the paper, it's scheduled for today. So, unless there's another tsunami of protests, the Va GOP is going to ram this thing right on through. They honestly don't care what a majority of people, let alone women, want.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)We gotta dump the Regressive incumbents this year....for sure.
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malaise
(268,949 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
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DirkGently
(12,151 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)K&DUrec
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)What effect will 100 people standing silently have? Seriously, folks, we really need to rethink what it means to protest. The replies to this thread are most discouraging.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)so I guess peaceful protest has some value.
the legislature is no doubt fully aware of the negative impact their actions have had for the state of VA around the world - if they pass this legislation, people can also boycott the state and deny them tourist dollars.
I don't know what you think these people should have done, anyway. What do you think the civil rights movement did in the 1960s? They didn't go after the police, the police went after them as they were peacefully, non-violenting protesting. That's what got the attention of the media and made the treatment of Af-Ams a national shame.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)please point to any major source that will take the protestors' side. Here's a hint: The same fascist kooks who support this bill own the media.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)It also appeared in the Richmond, VA newspaper.
In addition, a lot of editorials have been written in major newspapers about this latest assault on women's rights.
Women are leaving the GOP after these legislative decisions in states around the country.