Sun Jul 28, 2013, 10:14 PM

I love the new meme: FDR Democrats are hurting the 99% by focusing on Snowden

It's a hoot! From the Third-Way prevaricators at politicsusa:

As Republicans Make Millions Suffer, the Left’s Ideologues Obsess Over Edward Snowden

This claim is being made by Third-Way Democrats, the very people who have gleefully disembowled the 99% for a few shekels over the past 20 years, and who have relentlessly claimed that the NSA Spy on Everyone program is actually about Snowden not NSA overreach.

Wow!

Of course, FDR Democrats are infinitely more concerned about the Constitution than about Snowden, and believe in helping the 99% by helping the 99%, not by cutting Social Security or sending jobs abroad through "free" trade agreements.

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I love the new meme: FDR Democrats are hurting the 99% by focusing on Snowden (Original post)	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	OP
they are creative. They have a new meme almost every day.	liberal_at_heart	Jul 2013	#1
flinging shit to see what sticks	Skittles	Jul 2013	#2
And circular links to back up those new memes within minutes	DJ13	Jul 2013	#7
If they spent the weekend coming up with THAT shit,	bvar22	Jul 2013	#95
And you can pretty much guess what it will be.	zeemike	Jul 2013	#22
They are really working hard, but they aren't changing what is wrong.	JDPriestly	Jul 2013	#32
Yes. We know who they really are.......nt	Enthusiast	Jul 2013	#48
gapaw	gaphaw	Jul 2013	#58
good point! nt	AppleBottom	Aug 2013	#172
Yet another Snowden centered rant by them	LiberalLovinLug	Jul 2013	#125
Snowden obssesed is that anything like being obssesed with civi rights?	AppleBottom	Aug 2013	#174
The Blue Dogs get their money from the same un named scumbuckets	Rain Mcloud	Jul 2013	#136
Um....FDR Democrats are the ones that created the NSA.	baldguy	Jul 2013	#3
But the Third Way told them to spy on all Americans	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	#4
+1	Marr	Jul 2013	#26
Thank you Manny.	JDPriestly	Jul 2013	#33
Well said, Manny......nt	Enthusiast	Jul 2013	#49
They have not been spying on all Americans	treestar	Jul 2013	#88
Can you back up your claim that the NSA has NOT been spying on all Americans?	bvar22	Jul 2013	#97
Lately, Republicans are very busy destroying themselves	Vanje	Jul 2013	#131
I'm pretty sure that the thing that makes Republicans objectionable is	AppleBottom	Aug 2013	#173
Democracy Now says they are.	AppleBottom	Aug 2013	#175
"spy on all Americans"	treestar	Aug 2013	#182
He's been spot on.	reusrename	Jul 2013	#6
And that part about the NSA being able to read people's minds was....?	baldguy	Jul 2013	#15
Don't tell me something as simple at that is what has you so confused.	reusrename	Jul 2013	#18
Got a link?	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	#25
Here ya go! Next to the last paragraph.	reusrename	Jul 2013	#42
Apparently he is not SUPER ACME Computer guy enough to understand how AJAX works	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#84
WTF are you talking about?	NealK	Jul 2013	#34
A line from an old WaPo article.	reusrename	Jul 2013	#43
Well	shawn703	Jul 2013	#52
Nothing wrong with giving him a fair trial.	reusrename	Jul 2013	#86
I hope you feel the same about Clapper and his perjury in front of congress... NT.	AppleBottom	Aug 2013	#177
FDR Democrats like	Demeter	Jul 2013	#57
Right. Truman was a DINO.	baldguy	Jul 2013	#90
And how do you know how many lies Snowden has told? If he didnt tell them to you personally	rhett o rick	Jul 2013	#121
This aint your Grandpa's NSA.	Vanje	Jul 2013	#130
This ain't your great-Grandpa's Gestapo, either.	baldguy	Jul 2013	#148
The administration is not as bad as the Gestapo.	Vanje	Jul 2013	#149
K&R	idwiyo	Jul 2013	#5
Is this another	ProSense	Jul 2013	#8
Perhaps. Or perhaps one of us is a	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	#10
Is that a confession? n/t	ProSense	Jul 2013	#11
LOL nm	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	#13
Why do you think our President is so infallible, in general? He's just a man for God's sake!	nomorenomore08	Jul 2013	#36
He's not "infallible" and yup, he's "just a man"	ProSense	Jul 2013	#103
The many-tentacled one has arrived	Android3.14	Jul 2013	#135
Actually it is usually not that hard to tell.	RC	Jul 2013	#21
"Used to be"? It still is left-leaning...	nomorenomore08	Jul 2013	#38
Left leaning web site? This place was founded in anger over the theft of an election from	MADem	Jul 2013	#132
Joebituary campaigned for McCain and the lovely Ms Palin in 2008	Fumesucker	Jul 2013	#139
He was Al Gore's running mate. The Truth is Out There, over at DU2.	MADem	Jul 2013	#142
He's a big part of the reason Gore "lost" in 2000	Fumesucker	Jul 2013	#143
I am not a fan. That said, there are plenty of people here who WERE fans of the guy AND	MADem	Jul 2013	#144
If Gore had become Pres in 2000, We could have had this conversation back then.	HumansAndResources	Aug 2013	#178
We likely wouldn't have had it here. This website came to the fore because of that theft. nt	MADem	Aug 2013	#179
Manny, Manny, Manny	Bragi	Jul 2013	#62
LOL	Capt. Obvious	Jul 2013	#92
They will definitely be drummed out of the party	pscot	Jul 2013	#12
If President O would simply do his job, as promised, vis-a-vis the US Constitution & Bill of Rights	99th_Monkey	Jul 2013	#23
+1	nomorenomore08	Jul 2013	#39
Same here.	HooptieWagon	Jul 2013	#108
Me three	DissidentVoice	Jul 2013	#156
Worth repeating:	bvar22	Jul 2013	#117
"divide and conquer post? "	NealK	Jul 2013	#35
You mean like many of your OPs?	Apophis	Jul 2013	#101
Does Stephanie Cutter post here?	kentuck	Jul 2013	#9
That's a creative new way for them to try to stir up the Two Minutes Hate!	backscatter712	Jul 2013	#14
I know! Amazing, isn't it? n/m	kurtzapril4	Jul 2013	#146
After the DNC puts the Party in the passenger seat of the GOP bus going over the cliff.	mick063	Jul 2013	#16
What's funny is they don't even ask nicely at election time. They simply insult, berate, and bully	liberal_at_heart	Jul 2013	#17
+1	Phlem	Jul 2013	#122
Its going to be a LOT harder for an unknown...	bvar22	Jul 2013	#128
I think you're right	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	#163
FDR Democrats would lock Snowden up with the Japanese in one of those fancy internment camps. nt	AllINeedIsCoffee	Jul 2013	#19
Which is much better treatment than my father would have given them.	mick063	Jul 2013	#24
Afraid so. So who are the FDR Democrats, Obama or the Purists?	freshwest	Aug 2013	#167
Damn liberals. nt	awoke_in_2003	Jul 2013	#20
I thought we were still busy smearing civil libertarians? Oh! I mean Paulbots	NoOneMan	Jul 2013	#27
Rmuse is Third Way?	joshcryer	Jul 2013	#28
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2013	#54
You who posted this: "The Obama Administration officially supports legal MMJ"	Bluenorthwest	Jul 2013	#85
The Third Way Democrats making that claim are helping the 99% with	Dragonfli	Jul 2013	#29
+1000! When you say it like that, it's like the nose on your face.	reusrename	Jul 2013	#44
There's this old saying in the Beltway....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jul 2013	#30
They're getting desperate, aren't they? Your Third Way buddies.	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#31
FDR was probably right of Obama on civil liberties...	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2013	#37
No one is pretending FDR didn't have flaws.	Zorra	Jul 2013	#50
You just proved my point...	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2013	#118
Sorry, but that's simply unreasonable, irrational bullshit.	Zorra	Jul 2013	#158
What wiretaps on occupy wall street?	treestar	Aug 2013	#184
WHAT? The terrorists of today are more dangerous to civilians than the Nazis?!?	Zorra	Aug 2013	#187
I meant American civilians	treestar	Aug 2013	#189
Still don't believe terrorists could ever be more dangerous to us than the Nazis.	Zorra	Aug 2013	#190
Why did the Japanese want to attack us?	treestar	Aug 2013	#191
Japan was in the throes of RW imperial nationalism and FDR put an oil embargo on Japan.	Zorra	Aug 2013	#195
+1	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#60
If you are going to hurl 'revisionism' about, look in the mirror. Internment was a great wrong	Bluenorthwest	Jul 2013	#71
German Spies Also	4Q2u2	Jul 2013	#126
+1	treestar	Aug 2013	#181
Why do plutocrats put a sweeping, Constitution-assaulting, spying infrastructure into place?	woo me with science	Jul 2013	#40
power for the sake of power	Puzzledtraveller	Jul 2013	#70
I wonder what would happen if the Left just got tired of these attacks from within their	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#41
Yes, and it will happen	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2013	#45
No, I do believe you. We are no longer welcome in the party as it has evolved into the	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#46
I know exactly how I am voting in 2014	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2013	#73
Go form a third party then	treestar	Aug 2013	#185
And you prove the point once again. We are going NOWHERE. This is OUR Party	sabrina 1	Aug 2013	#192
There is no point in taking over a party	treestar	Aug 2013	#193
Tell that to the Third Way. They HAVE taken over the party, because we let them.	sabrina 1	Aug 2013	#194
Isn't that the ultimate goal? Neutralize the Democratic party by driving out traditional	Zorra	Jul 2013	#63
I definitely think that is the goal. But the question is, if they were to succeed, can they win	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#80
I don't believe that Democrats winning is necessarily a goal	Zorra	Jul 2013	#99
+100	LiberalLovinLug	Jul 2013	#124
What we need is some strong third party candidates to run in big races on IRV as single issue	cascadiance	Jul 2013	#98
Thank, Manny! This is a perfect example of the massive propaganda effort we are enmeshed in.	Enthusiast	Jul 2013	#47
As Republicans make millions suffer ...	GeorgeGist	Jul 2013	#51
That's it	mick063	Jul 2013	#53
DU cir. 2001-2008 was good, and progressive.	tridim	Jul 2013	#55
You misspelled "authoritarian" n/t	Fumesucker	Jul 2013	#56
DUZY! n/t	backscatter712	Jul 2013	#94
More like "truzy". n/t	winter is coming	Jul 2013	#96
+1	madrchsod	Jul 2013	#145
one by one I have put them on Ignore	Skittles	Aug 2013	#176
+1000	Bobbie Jo	Aug 2013	#180
FDR Democrats is the name that the Larouchies	Gothmog	Jul 2013	#59
Um ... The article doesn't use the term "FDR Democrats".	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#61
Yes, it is all the left's fault	mick063	Jul 2013	#64
That's the difference between us ...	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#65
I will be focused on defeating plutocracy in every form.	mick063	Jul 2013	#66
How you going to do that exactly?	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#67
Perhaps the same way that you will be "focusing"	mick063	Jul 2013	#69
Apparently, yes.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#76
Nice rant	mick063	Jul 2013	#78
And I will STAND with you AND with Harry Truman!!	bvar22	Jul 2013	#114
Then we get candidates like my whole delegation	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2013	#79
The disgruntled aren't bringing forward better	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#111
You are so off it is not even funny	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2013	#113
CA certainly set the trend on gay marriage.	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#115
Nah, you seem confused, not me	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2013	#116
I've already elected my preferred candidates to the Congress and will return them next year	Bluenorthwest	Jul 2013	#83
Really ... some districts are different from other districts?	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#112
That's the only 'difference between us' in your opinion?	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#75
Did I say "only"?	JoePhilly	Jul 2013	#77
I was about to post basically the same argument	Summer Hathaway	Jul 2013	#137
cool story	mick063	Jul 2013	#155
My GOTV chant?	Summer Hathaway	Jul 2013	#161
I will be watching much "poutrage"	mick063	Jul 2013	#162
Because we are the anti-republican party	Puzzledtraveller	Jul 2013	#68
How is it anti Republican when so many appointees and highly praise political allies are Republicans	Bluenorthwest	Jul 2013	#74
It's the qualifier	Puzzledtraveller	Jul 2013	#81
No one will answer that question. We have so many Republicans now in the Democratic	sabrina 1	Jul 2013	#82
Yes, it's very funny. You can smell the desperation for a real argument.	bemildred	Jul 2013	#72
I still maintain you would have been dissatisfied with FDR	treestar	Jul 2013	#87
Old game - Fun With Framing by Mattel. New game - Reframing: Game of the Year Edition.	L0oniX	Jul 2013	#89
Now you fancy yourself an FDR Democrat?	great white snark	Jul 2013	#91
LoL. "THIRD WAY DEMOCRATS"?	railsback	Jul 2013	#93
Yeah, they dumped the DLC label, once it was documented the KOCH BROTHERS FUNDED IT!!!!	cascadiance	Jul 2013	#100
I prefer to call them by their real affiliations, myself	quakerboy	Jul 2013	#141
Third Way Democrats - are they Democrats or are they something else trying to pass as Democrats? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Jul 2013	#102
they should be called third input Democrats	yurbud	Jul 2013	#104
I just call them DINOs.	backscatter712	Jul 2013	#105
even DINO is too kind since it could imply an economic progressive/cultural conservative	yurbud	Jul 2013	#107
I would also propose calling them the Larry Summers or Robert Rubin Democrats	yurbud	Jul 2013	#106
Are you taking responsibility, Third Way Manny?	Fuddnik	Jul 2013	#109
What is a Third Way Democrat?	GiaGiovanni	Jul 2013	#110
Basically a Jerry Ford Republican	DissidentVoice	Jul 2013	#120
Nice analysis.	bvar22	Jul 2013	#129
Thanks for the explanation	GiaGiovanni	Jul 2013	#153
+1	Zorra	Jul 2013	#157
I want to say you're wrong about Tsongas...	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	#164
I meant no disrespect to the late Senator	DissidentVoice	Aug 2013	#171
It is someone who supports the Democratic Party	treestar	Aug 2013	#186
A fresh thinker!	WorseBeforeBetter	Aug 2013	#196
Pot, meet Kettle	nilram	Jul 2013	#119
Yeah the pathetic desperation by the moderate-right wing of the party	Rex	Jul 2013	#123
Third way democrats have been studying their karl rove.	Jakes Progress	Jul 2013	#127
K & R !!!	WillyT	Jul 2013	#133
Why are the new left obsessing over Snowden?	Progressive dog	Jul 2013	#134
Excuse me, but I'm not obsessing over Mr. Snowden	Jack Rabbit	Jul 2013	#138
The 3rd Way is Obsessing over this	Generic Other	Jul 2013	#140
It's self-indulgent to focus on Snowden at the expense of everything else	Politicub	Jul 2013	#147
Its self-indulgent to worry about steep erosion of constitutional rights.	Vanje	Jul 2013	#150
Declaring unbending loyalty to Snowden has become Norquist-esque	Politicub	Jul 2013	#154
Nope	Vanje	Jul 2013	#159
"Snowden loyalty oath?"	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	#165
Well said.	freshwest	Aug 2013	#168
Very true.....	AverageJoe90	Aug 2013	#170
Snowden's expose's show.......	DeSwiss	Jul 2013	#151
They don't care about history	Harmony Blue	Aug 2013	#183
Just disgusting. I'm nauseous just thinking about it.	AAO	Jul 2013	#152
kick	woo me with science	Jul 2013	#160
me	MannyGoldstein	Jul 2013	#166
The sad thing is, Manny.....this is actually TRUE, like it or not. From an FDR (social) Democrat. nt	AverageJoe90	Aug 2013	#169
People CAN multitask.	PowerToThePeople	Aug 2013	#188

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sun Jul 28, 2013, 10:16 PM

I love the new meme: FDR Democrats are hurting the 99% by focusing on Snowden

1. they are creative. They have a new meme almost every day.

2. flinging shit to see what sticks

7. And circular links to back up those new memes within minutes

95. If they spent the weekend coming up with THAT shit,

22. And you can pretty much guess what it will be.

32. They are really working hard, but they aren't changing what is wrong.

48. Yes. We know who they really are.......nt

58. gapaw

172. good point! nt

125. Yet another Snowden centered rant by them

174. Snowden obssesed is that anything like being obssesed with civi rights?

136. The Blue Dogs get their money from the same un named scumbuckets

3. Um....FDR Democrats are the ones that created the NSA.

4. But the Third Way told them to spy on all Americans

26. +1

33. Thank you Manny.

49. Well said, Manny......nt

88. They have not been spying on all Americans

97. Can you back up your claim that the NSA has NOT been spying on all Americans?

131. Lately, Republicans are very busy destroying themselves

173. I'm pretty sure that the thing that makes Republicans objectionable is

175. Democracy Now says they are.

182. "spy on all Americans"

6. He's been spot on.

15. And that part about the NSA being able to read people's minds was....?

18. Don't tell me something as simple at that is what has you so confused.

25. Got a link?

42. Here ya go! Next to the last paragraph.

84. Apparently he is not SUPER ACME Computer guy enough to understand how AJAX works

34. WTF are you talking about?

43. A line from an old WaPo article.

52. Well

86. Nothing wrong with giving him a fair trial.

177. I hope you feel the same about Clapper and his perjury in front of congress... NT.

57. FDR Democrats like

90. Right. Truman was a DINO.

121. And how do you know how many lies Snowden has told? If he didnt tell them to you personally

130. This aint your Grandpa's NSA.

148. This ain't your great-Grandpa's Gestapo, either.

149. The administration is not as bad as the Gestapo.

5. K&R

8. Is this another

10. Perhaps. Or perhaps one of us is a

11. Is that a confession? n/t

13. LOL nm

36. Why do you think our President is so infallible, in general? He's just a man for God's sake!

103. He's not "infallible" and yup, he's "just a man"

135. The many-tentacled one has arrived

21. Actually it is usually not that hard to tell.

38. "Used to be"? It still is left-leaning...

132. Left leaning web site? This place was founded in anger over the theft of an election from

139. Joebituary campaigned for McCain and the lovely Ms Palin in 2008

142. He was Al Gore's running mate. The Truth is Out There, over at DU2.

143. He's a big part of the reason Gore "lost" in 2000

144. I am not a fan. That said, there are plenty of people here who WERE fans of the guy AND

178. If Gore had become Pres in 2000, We could have had this conversation back then.

179. We likely wouldn't have had it here. This website came to the fore because of that theft. nt

62. Manny, Manny, Manny

92. LOL

12. They will definitely be drummed out of the party

23. If President O would simply do his job, as promised, vis-a-vis the US Constitution & Bill of Rights

39. +1

108. Same here.

156. Me three

117. Worth repeating:

35. "divide and conquer post? "

101. You mean like many of your OPs?

9. Does Stephanie Cutter post here?

14. That's a creative new way for them to try to stir up the Two Minutes Hate!

146. I know! Amazing, isn't it? n/m

16. After the DNC puts the Party in the passenger seat of the GOP bus going over the cliff.

17. What's funny is they don't even ask nicely at election time. They simply insult, berate, and bully

122. +1

128. Its going to be a LOT harder for an unknown...

163. I think you're right

19. FDR Democrats would lock Snowden up with the Japanese in one of those fancy internment camps. nt

24. Which is much better treatment than my father would have given them.

167. Afraid so. So who are the FDR Democrats, Obama or the Purists?

20. Damn liberals. nt