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By Brendan Sasso
The leaders of the House Intelligence Committee blasted the latest leaks about the National Security Agency's surveillance programs on Wednesday.
The latest in the parade of classified leaks published today is without context and provides a completely inaccurate picture of the program," Reps. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.) said in a joint statement.
The Guardian reported on Wednesday that the NSA is running a surveillance program, named XKeyscore, that allows intelligence analysts to search databases of people's email, online chats and browsing histories without prior authorization.
Documents obtained by the newspaper from former government contractor Edward Snowden describe how analysts can obtain Internet data including the content of email messages, Facebook chats, private messages and search histories by filling out a simple on-screen form.
Rogers and Ruppersberger called the report "irresponsibly misleading."
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99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)They must all be running around with their hair on fire.
:roflmfao:
PDJane
(10,103 posts)In other words, it's not irresponsibly misleading, it's quite true. The quote, by the way, is from Claude Cockburn.
disidoro01
(302 posts)Mike Rogers good, ACLU bad?
Notice how ole Mike doesn't say it isn't true, just out of context. So did those constraints prevent a new hire from taking documents and accessing such secure information with layers of oversight?
Mike says it's a tool to better understand, not that it doesn't do what Snowden says it does. Why is that?
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)If there was such oversight, how did Snowden get the docs?
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)dballance
(5,756 posts)set of people? I'm betting on the GOP house mis-leaders.
randome
(34,845 posts)How is he going to sell that book of his after the declassification of documents tomorrow? I guess we'll have to see how much is declassified and how much it refutes Glenn's nefarious implications.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)"without context and provide a completely inaccurate picture of the program"?
randome
(34,845 posts)Both sides have an agenda. Greenwald and the NSA. Get as much evidence as we can and then make our tentative conclusions about it.
I say 'tentative' because all conclusions should be tentative with the possibility of future evidence changing the picture.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)hate to judge before all the facts are in, right?
great white snark
(2,646 posts)Nothing wrong with discerning the accuracy of facts before judgement. If not you look like an ignorant fool-kinda like when you throw around the term "totalitarian" when someone disagrees with you.
Try being equally objective to what the NSA says and what Greenwald says. If it's in you.
Although in your case it might be too late considering your "biggest story of the century" Greenwaldish comment.
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)Because it does not matter how much evidence is presented they still wallow in their denial.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)Now that content collection is off the table, I want to start talking about how Bush laid the groundwork for the shaping of public opinion by telling us US Government propaganda on the US citizen was okay.
That seemed silly and out of touch at the time, but what they were actually thinking about was DARPA's SMISC program.
The sunlight, it is seeping in!
Wilms
(26,795 posts)I feel much better hearing their reassurances.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)But of course these two could simply fill us in on all the missing context that would set the record straight. In a functional demoracy the people have to be able make informed decisions, in our dysfunctional democracy a national security state has emerged within the hollowed out framework of a constitutional republic, wrapped itself in secrecy justified by a 60 year perpetual state of emergency, protected its existence with pork barrel politics, and rendered "representative democracy" meaningless. These two could set the record straight, that is if they had the courage of a Bradley Manning or an Edward Snowden.
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)But Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), said the latest report shows that the "government's surveillance activities are far more extensive and intrusive than previously understood, and they underscore that the surveillance laws are in desperate need of reform."
He said the documents also call into question the truth of statements that intelligence officials have made in recent months about the programs.
Cheers!
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)K & R
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)That way they'll be good and caught in their lies before too long. Like Clapper.
This is like insisting the Titanic is just fine after it hit the iceberg.
RC
(25,592 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Does the government "lie to you" all the time then?
Maybe no one on food stamps is qualified then? Only the 1% are getting them?
This is just deranged. We're supposed to generally hate and distrust the government, end of story?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Food stamps and Social Security never spread lies about WMDs or invaded people's private lives without a warrant.
cprise
(8,445 posts)Or... its the entire Where, When, Who and What of every minute of our lives, minus the dialogue.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)If Dick Cheney can personally go down to the CIA and pressure them for a "better report" on Iraq, I can easily foresee a scenario in the future where someone powerful goes to the NSA in person and digs up what they wish.
Before that report in 2003, I was naive enough to believe that a sitting Vice President would NEVER do something like that. Of course, it will never ever happen again in the history of this republic.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)and something that we will not have a spirited discussion about sadly.
See, we have the right guy in charge and that will never change so how dare we worry about limiting powers.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I wonder why that might be . . .
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
(2,022 posts)maybe
muriel_volestrangler
(101,150 posts)and he also thinks they are trying to embarrass the Americans.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)publications actually practicing journalism.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)in recent months about the programs.
He said the documents also call into question the truth of statements that intelligence officials have made in recent months about the programs.
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Agony
(2,605 posts)"In November 30, 2011 Congressman Rogers introduced the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA).[9] "The bill would allow the government to share all of its classified cyber-security knowledge with private companies, forming knowledge-sharing agreements that would hopefully keep China (and other countries and hackers) out of American computer networks. The catch is that the information shared is a two-lane streetcompanies would also be allowed to share private data with the federal government, provided there is a reasonable "cyber threat.""[10]"
"His wife, Kristi Clemens Rogers, was previously President and CEO of Aegis LLC, a contractor to the United States Department of State for intelligence-based and physical security services."
Yeah, he'll be straight up with us...
I am just trying to help with catapulting the propaganda, how am I doing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rogers_(Michigan_politician)
bullwinkle428
(20,626 posts)Committee and all.)
unreadierLizard
(475 posts)that ProSense would make a thread like this?
Snowden got temporary asylum in Russia. the American Politburo needs to get to work on making him look like a traitor libertarian Ron Rand Ayn Rand something to make people not believe what he leaked.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"How did I know that ProSense would make a thread like this?"
...because you saw the name attached to it? Because I'm not afraid of information...unlike some people: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023381665
"Snowden got temporary asylum in Russia. the American Politburo needs to get to work on making him look like a traitor libertarian Ron Rand Ayn Rand something to make people not believe what he leaked."
Cool, he finally found utopia.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)No contest.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,150 posts)You 'target' someone at the centre; and then you're allowed to go three 'hops' away from them.
librechik
(30,663 posts)he gave his stash to The Guardian, and now they release it in dribs and drabs. It's a typical public relations type strategy that the US is in agony over--even though they do it themselves. They don't like it when it's pulled on them. It's very effective.
And it's not like Snowden is "misleading them." He has no input on these releases anymore. Congress needs to deal with the facts as released, not their outrage over their own exposure.