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chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 12:28 PM Aug 2013

NSA paid British spy agency $100 mln in secret funds – new leak

Last edited Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:15 PM - Edit history (1)

NSA paid British spy agency $100 mln in secret funds – new leak
Published time: August 01, 2013 15:17

The NSA has made hush-hush payments of at least $100 million to Britain’s GCHQ spying agency over the past three years to influence British intelligence gathering operations. The payouts were revealed in new Snowden leaks published by The Guardian.

The documents illustrate that the NSA expects the UK’s Government Communications Headquarters, known as GCHQ, to act in its interest, expecting a return on the investment, The Guardian said Thursday.

Redevelopments at GCHQ’s site at Bude in southwest England, which alone cost over $20 million, were paid for by the US National Security Agency. The facility intercepts information from transatlantic cables carrying Internet and communications information.

The revelations appear to contradict previous denials from British government ministers that GCHQ does the NSA’s “dirty work.” In addition, the latest Snowden dossier details how British surveillance operations could be a “selling point” for the US.

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More at:

http://rt.com/news/nsa-pay-british-spy-agency-910/

Adding original source: The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden


Your tax dollars at work!

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NSA paid British spy agency $100 mln in secret funds – new leak (Original Post) chimpymustgo Aug 2013 OP
But we have no money for "entitlements".... WinkyDink Aug 2013 #1
Ed is the gift that keeps giving wtmusic Aug 2013 #2
Outsourcing? Robb Aug 2013 #3
Americans Paying The British To Spy On Americans cantbeserious Aug 2013 #4
I think that is the underlying secret they are terrified of having revealed to the American public Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #6
Gives new meaning to our "special relationship." More from the Guardian: chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #7
Hey, don't knock it. Downwinder Aug 2013 #5
Private Tentacles of Public Beast 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #8
So, instead of being our Poodle, Britain is now our whore? And we're their's I suppose. nt matthews Aug 2013 #9
This is classic Bush Administration stuff. It's okay if the Brits are doing it too.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #10
It is, indeed FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #12
He should have purged the stupid out of DC.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #14
Oh FFS not news, it has been documented for 30 f'n years intaglio Aug 2013 #11
Eschelon GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #13
Exactly - except it's not yet defunct n/t intaglio Aug 2013 #15
Just another layer GiaGiovanni Aug 2013 #17
K&R cprise Aug 2013 #16

Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
6. I think that is the underlying secret they are terrified of having revealed to the American public
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:10 PM
Aug 2013

I have the deep suspicion that the NSA has merely colluded with allies like Great Britain to spy on each others citizens and exchange the information at will. By spying in this manner, NSA officials, the President and others can lie with complete confidence. They can say that the NSA is NOT spying on Americans. What they do not say is that the Brits are doing it for them.

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
7. Gives new meaning to our "special relationship." More from the Guardian:
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 02:20 PM
Aug 2013

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When GCHQ does supply the US with valuable intelligence, the agency boasts about it. In one review, GCHQ boasted that it had supplied "unique contributions" to the NSA during its investigation of the American citizen responsible for an attempted car bomb attack in Times Square, New York City, in 2010.

No other detail is provided – but it raises the possibility that GCHQ might have been spying on an American living in the US. The NSA is prohibited from doing this by US law.

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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
5. Hey, don't knock it.
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 01:54 PM
Aug 2013

After 9/11 they caught the woman "with enough gas to blow up Ft. Knox."
Stomach gas, that is.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
10. This is classic Bush Administration stuff. It's okay if the Brits are doing it too....
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:22 PM
Aug 2013

Then you bribe the Brits so the motive isn't "what's right" it's "how much?"

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
11. Oh FFS not news, it has been documented for 30 f'n years
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 03:35 PM
Aug 2013

By John Pilger in "The New Statesman" 1988 and also unsourced stories published by "Private Eye" since about 1970

It is called Echelon has been running since at about 1962 but it replaced earlier, less comprehensive schemes. also signatories to the agreement are Australia, Canada, New Zealand. There are similar schemes in place in Spain, Germany, Japan, Korea and I believe India.

Yes, it needs removing, but it is not news.

 

GiaGiovanni

(1,247 posts)
13. Eschelon
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 07:00 PM
Aug 2013

Based on the idea (now defunct) that American intelligence agencies couldn't collect intelligence from Americans, but that foreign governments could do so.

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