If you support corporal punishment, you might as well turn your kid over to a stranger...

[cynatnite]

for them to hit.

Got into it yesterday with someone about this subject. Pissed me off.

I do believe that if you support corporal punishment in school, you support letting strangers hit your kid.

[femmocrat]

1. I didn't know there were schools that still paddled kids.

Are they in Texas?

[cynatnite]

3. She read an article about a school here in TN trying to bring it back...

She thought it was a great idea and she certainly hated what I thought on the subject.

[femmocrat]

5. Terrible.

Because beating a child with a wooden board is such a great way to teach him or her to learn self-control.

[Go Vols]

8. Corporal punishment is legal in Tenn. schools

Its up to each school district to determine if it is used or not.It is practiced in the school district where I live.

[cynatnite]

9. I know they don't practice it here in Kingsport...

At least that's my understanding. Maybe that's what she was talking about.

[okieinpain]

2. I don't have a problem with it. I pretty much got a spanking at school

every other day. lol.

[cynatnite]

4. So, you're okay with strangers hitting your kid. Gotcha. n/t

[okieinpain]

7. it takes a village sometimes to get a kid to behave. n/t.

[cynatnite]

11. Hmm...dear village, you don't need my permission to hit my child....

That is indeed a scary parent...one who advocates total strangers to strike their child without their permission or knowledge.

Frightening.

[okieinpain]

13. lol, well the kids from my class all got spankings at school

and we all turned out pretty good. we were just talking about this at our class reunion. I don't remember too many school shootings in the 70's.

[Neoma]

12. So beating a kid will correct behavior huh?

What behavior do you mean exactly, and what age group are we talking about here?

Drugs or excessive giggling? Creating a bomb or pissing on the wall? Stabbing with pencils or mooning people?

Or are you meaning kids with undiscovered mood disorders? Dyslexia? Oops! That kid has Tourette syndrome and just shouted out the C word, let's spank her!

What goes well with you could go horribly for others. Do you think a kid will respond to spanking if s/he is physically abused at home and is acting out because of it?

[okieinpain]

14. yeah I forgot about all the clinical stuff that goes on now days. I guess you're

right just let them run wild. their parents will deal with it when they pick them up at the end of the day.

[Neoma]

15. Beating them won't address their needs.

I have to wonder about how people like you would victimize people with these disorders even more, do you like to get off on violence or something?

[okieinpain]

21. lol, I choked on my gummy bear. of course I get off on violence i'm an american. n/t.

[cali]

17. yeah, because there's no other way to discipline kids

other than hitting them.

please refer to my sig line.

[okieinpain]

23. hey that time out stuff works for some people, for others it doesn't

super nanny does great with that stand in the corner stuff. but there other ones that it doesn't bother are running wild in the schools. my daughter use to teach jr. high. she's now a director for a company in california that helps inmates get their geds. she says she wouldn't go back to jr. high to save her life. says the kids are too bad, they will do what they want, say what they want and fear no one.

[cali]

16. hahaha. yeah, hitting kids and humiliating them is just such a laugh

I never attended a school where that disgusting crap was practiced and I live in a state where any teacher who tried to spank a kid would be arrested before you could say boo.

Oklahoma where the kids get walloped and the corn is as high....

[Happyhippychick]

6. Corporal punishment legal in schools in 28 states, last I checked.

[cali]

18. 20, I think

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0934191.html

[NewThinkingChance40]

10. I don't want other people hitting my kids

they are homeschooled, but if they were in public schools, they know they would be punished when they got home.

[bpositive]

19. Totally wrong

I have two 8 year olds and a 13 year old and my wife and I have never spanked, hit, used a belt or anything close in disciplining our children. It sends the wrong message and it probably makes the authoritarian minded adult feel better with no positive affect on the child's behavior. When I was a child I received beatings, actually got stabbed by a fork once as punishment. The punishment taught me to be sneakier so that I did not get caught.

Btw, my kids are well behaved and very respectful to others.

There are better ways to help modify a child's behavior that does not involve physical abuse.

[HughBeaumont]

20. I got paddled in first grade.

It didn't do shit as far as correcting bad behavior, because there was no bad behavior to begin with. My crime was being pushed out of line at a drinking fountain .. . . OOOOH CALL OUT THE SWAT TEAM!!

She didn't care that I was merely a bystander and had nothing to do with said individual's problems. More or less at the wrong place at the wrong time. She just saw two kids, one getting shoved and the other doing the shoving, and paddled both of us.

Never mind the fact that getting shoved out of line at a drinking fountain is a bullshit reason to paddle a kid to begin with . . .

I walked back in the class angry. I didn't cry, because frankly it didn't hurt all that much. The other kid was bawling his eyes out and the rest of the class silent and staring. I think that's the part that made me the most angry - the humiliation factor that both of us experienced being made an example of for something so trivial.

All it did was make me hate school, hate teachers, be continually untrustworthy and have contempt for adults and authority figures. It wouldn't be the last time I was embarrassed or abused by a teacher either (see the archived journal for more).

Shit like that stays with you forever and sets an ugly precedent in one's image for institutions of learning.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

22. Why are CHILDREN

the only people in our society whom are considered not only legally but MORALLY acceptable to hit (outside of self-defense, of course)? We don't teach our children that it's o.k. to hit another person for any reason and when they become adults we know that they can go to jail if they hit another person. It's not considered o.k. to use physical violence to control a spouse/partner. What in the world kind of message do we send about physical violence when we- as adults- use physical violence to attempt to control a (usually young) child's behavior?

Just my $0.02