3 million of us don’t have CBS today in L.A. today due to Time Warner/CBS dispute..

[busterbrown]

On my days off, love my golf.. Just pisses me off..
You would think that that the FCC would quickly end this shit..
But a aah, regulators are no good..

Republican golfing crowd around here must be pissed off..Heads turning in circles. Which Corporation to blame?? Nah, it’s the regulators and the Kenyan govt..

Next week PGA Championship!!!

[msongs]

1. cbs 2 can be gotten just fine with rabbit ears. did it for years nt

[GlashFordan]

2. Most of their programming is

Rerun crap. I wish they'd offer ala carte TV cable so my $100 a month doesn't subdidize stupid channels.

[Sherman A1]

3. Agreed

I think my ala carte would be about 3 channels. I find most of TV pretty boring.

[GlashFordan]

5. Lol!! Me too!!

History, Discovery, sciFi, PBS, espn, WealthTV (believe it or not it's mostly travel and history with some of the best videography on TV) and maybe TLC.

[SoCalDem]

39. and then the channels YOU like might get the axe totally

if enough other buyers think THEY are the crap channels..

We lost the battle when we continually allowed mergers and literally gave away our airwaves to corporations awash with money-grubbing, irresponsible louts.

[bunnies]

4. Here:

Dont say I never gave you anything.

Stream 2 is really clear right now. http://livetvcafe.net/video/8UUHUYR3HNX5/CBS

[busterbrown]

6. You are a God....

[bunnies]

8. Shh! We cant have everyone knowing.

[HereSince1628]

7. I'm guessing over a hundred thousands don't have NBC in Milw, because of similar dispute

Looks like TWC is under pressure across the country...was this fight something proposed in an A.L.E.C. or Heritage Foundation whitepaper?

[hobbit709]

9. Here in Austin I can pick up 12 channels with just a $10 set of rabbit ears.

assuming there's something on the major networks I'd want to watch.

[liberalhistorian]

10. Sorry, but if this isn't the definition of

a trivial first-world problem, I don't know what is. I can think of WAY WAY WAY WAY worse problems. Hell, my family and I are dealing with some of them right now, like parental illness/incapacity and approaching parental death, financial issues, etc. The loss of a network on the teev ain't even on the radar.

[TreasonousBastard]

12. Been through all that myself, with no one to help, but...

I could always find a few minutes a day to bitch and moan if they took "The Mentalist" away from me.

[liberalhistorian]

16. I used to like that show until

they got too obsessed with the whole "Red John" stuff, then it got repetitive and annoying.

[busterbrown]

20. Your not alone with major problems..

I like my golf as a little escapism...My point really was about....ah hell, it was about the golf...

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

25. Escapism is frowned upon by some.

Apparently you're supposed to spend all free time sobbing in a dark room.

But to answer your question, you can watch the network channels over the air with an antenna. You can get those pretty cheap at places like Big Lots.

I also think you might be able to find one at Walgreen's.

[MADem]

30. You should start a thread on those problems, so people can discuss them with you.

You might try the Baby Boomer group, or one of the groups in the HEALTH section, rather than stomp on this person's OP.

[liberalhistorian]

36. What makes you think I'm a boomer?

I am what I call an "after-boomer". I know there's a specific name for that generation since the number-crunchers always have names for each one, but damned if I know what it is.

And you're probably right about being a bit too harsh on the OP. It hasn't been a great day and it shouldn't have been taken out on him or her. I love escapism as much as anyone else (especially in books!), but the advantage nowadays over earlier times is that we now have literally hundreds of channels to choose from instead of just a few in the days before widespread cable when the networks ruled.

[MADem]

37. Many boomers have up close and personal experience dealing with "aging parent" issues.

You might benefit from their wisdom.

I can give you a few ideas, if you'd like--I've had to deal with that sort of thing for several relatives, and I know a few folks who live in "assisted living" facilities. It's fraught with emotion and can be expensive, depending on circumstances.

I think you're a Gen X-er, if you came right after the boomers. I've lost track. I think it was Gen Y after that, and then "Millenials," but I don't keep up.

[TreasonousBastard]

11. Once upon a time...

cable companies bid for a franchise and the local town, city, or whatever granting it made it carry all the networks and local channels broadcast over the air. There were no discussions about that, and it was just "cable channels" that the operator could play with.

See how far we've come?

[spanone]

13. you're missing one hell of a golf tournament...that would piss me off too.

[NightWatcher]

14. Oh noes... Can't watch golf. I'll give you an update

Dude hits a ball with a stick, walks down a lush greenway, finds ball, hits it again. Rinse repeat.

[busterbrown]

21. Try it...

[NightWatcher]

24. I played in highschool, but I couldn't stand to watch it

[TeamPooka]

15. NBC will still come in 4th.

[Safetykitten]

17. And this is a problem because?

[NewThinkingChance40]

18. This kind of stuff happens in Ohio every couple years

The worst was when the Big 10 network first came on, a long dispute caused Time Warner to not carry it for a while, but Wide Open West had it no problem.

[Xolodno]

19. CBS will eventually capitualate.

TV carriers have the content providers by the balls. Most people are often locked into contracts and thus can't switch on a dime when these disputes happen. Content providers are paid by advertisers....and advertisers start demanding cheaper fees when they don't reach all of their intended audience...when they start threatening, content providers capitulate with the occasional requirement that a carrier include one more channel or something.

If content providers got serious about going live over the internet (i.e. Hulu, Netflix, etc.) then they could thumb their nose at the carriers. Problem is, often they sign a contract with the carrier that states online shows will be delayed, or sign with major sporting groups that they will not provide content over the internet. And then you have the fact that broadband is still not quite available everywhere cheap enough. Eventually it will be and this is what scares the carriers, hence why you see them starting to develop platforms to deliver content online. Content providers are too scared to invest in such a venture as doing so would probably result in all carriers snubbing them. However, some providers such as Disney have invested heavily into Hulu, got into exclusive contracts with Netflix, etc.

CBS vs. Time Warner is just a battle in the larger war. Should be interesting to see who eventually wins this war.

[MADem]

31. They should live-stream their content and tell TW to shove it. nt

[pinboy3niner]

33. TWC advised affected customers of other ways they could get CBS, including online...

CBS then blocked online access to its programming by TWC customers in those markets.

[MADem]

34. That sucks! Proxy server, then! nt

[pinboy3niner]

35. Or the alternative site (link provided by bunnies in #4). :) nt

[Liberal_in_LA]

22. get out your digital antenna and convertee

[customerserviceguy]

23. Got my first antenna

when Fox got into a pissing match with Cablevision, and I built my "hillbilly antenna" out of a board from my brother-in-law's shed, some screws and washers, a balun (remember those transformers you used to hook up an old TV with screw terminals to a TV cable) and about five coat hangers. Found the plans on the Internet, and after a couple hours of work I had something that would pull in football on Fox right while my cable company was feuding with them, surprising how well it worked and how good it looked (the picture, not the antenna, it's ugly as sin!)

About a year ago, I said screw it to the whole mess, and just bought a nice Winegard antenna to use, the "hillbilly antenna" is up one floor in my townhouse, supplying signal to the 40" HDTV I won as grand prize at the union holiday dinner a couple of years ago. I really should get another Winegard, but maybe I'm just a bit too cheap!

[WCGreen]

26. The top markets are shut off from CBS....

Wonder how that will effect the rating for the Stellar CBS shows...

[Shrike47]

27. We don't have cable so we're safe.

In LA you should be able to get CBS without cable.

[boston bean]

28. Seems like it's always Tie Warner with this problem, am I wrong?

[cthulu2016]

29. Wow... you think we need laws that say you can watch golf?

This post is like a RW parody of what liberals think.

Why should the FCC set rates paid by cable systems to content providers, or set what content providers feel like charging for content?

[busterbrown]

38. Where’s the parody..

Where in the Post does it mention that the FCC should determine the rates?

I simply stated that the consumers who bought these goods are once again getting screwed by a fight between freaking huge corporations... The FCC should force them to sit at the table until settled..

Funny, seems like you found a message you were looking to find...Sorry to disappoint!!!

[MineralMan]

32. Rabbit ears. If you have a digital TV,

try them.