Hiroshima poll

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4 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Well, the war ended pretty quickly after that
	0 (0%)
	Nothing is easier than judging people from the comfort of your armchair
	3 (75%)
	It was mean-spirited and completely unnecessary
	0 (0%)
	I kinda like the idea of charring masses of people into crispy bits
	0 (0%)
	On the one hand .... on the other hand ...
	1 (25%)
	Deliberately killing civilians is unethical
	0 (0%)
	It was just fair payback for Pearl Harbor and Bataan
	0 (0%)
	Yeah, world war sucks
	0 (0%)
	We need to fold more origami cranes and never forget
	0 (0%)
	Other
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[Gravitycollapse]

1. The Japanese were imperialist thugs. The allied forces fire bombed generally peaceful populations.

Some argue that we had to attack industrial epicenters. They may have a point. They may not.

All I know is war is always ex post inefficient.

[Warren DeMontague]

2. One can accept the rationale behind the decision and still find it profoundly sad.

WWII was a whole lot of tragedies. I think "never forget" is good advice.

[Bonobo]

3. Blech.

Accept it at the risk of becoming a person that finds it acceptable to do horrific things as long as rationale is provided.

[Warren DeMontague]

4. WWII was a system of horrific things, connected to each other. Hiroshima didn't occur in a vacuum.

I'm not Harry Truman, and this is not 1945. I am glad for both those facts.

[Bonobo]

5. Neither did WW2.

There was a history. Go read up on Commodore Perry and how Japan was forced open. Then read about how Western Imperialist nations raped China and how that made Japan react.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. Indeed.

So you would say, then, in that context you "accept the rationale" for Japan's starting WWII in the Pacific?

Does that mean you agree with the decision? That you are unaware of the moral implications of it? That you yourself would make the same decision in the same circumstance?

See, Im willing to bet that is not what that means, B.

[Bonobo]

7. That's a fair point, Warren. nt

[delrem]

8. This is 2013 and we observe that drones are being used to wage war in undeclared areas.

We observe the rise of a computerized net oriented security state, which uses a "war on terror" as excuse for all.

We observe VERY LITTLE pushback, considering the challenge.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. Whoa.

Okay.