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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 04:24 AM Aug 2013

T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security

WASHINGTON — As hundreds of commuters emerged from Amtrak and commuter trains at Union Station on a recent morning, an armed squad of men and women dressed in bulletproof vests made their way through the crowds.

The squad was not with the Washington police department or Amtrak’s police force, but was one of the Transportation Security Administration’s Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response squads — VIPR teams for short — assigned to perform random security sweeps to prevent terrorist attacks at transportation hubs across the United States.

“The T.S.A., huh,” said Donald Neubauer of Greenville, Ohio, as he walked past the squad. “I thought they were just at the airports.”

With little fanfare, the agency best known for airport screenings has vastly expanded its reach to sporting events, music festivals, rodeos, highway weigh stations and train terminals. Not everyone is happy.

T.S.A. and local law enforcement officials say the teams are a critical component of the nation’s counterterrorism efforts, but some members of Congress, auditors at the Department of Homeland Security and civil liberties groups are sounding alarms. The teams are also raising hackles among passengers who call them unnecessary and intrusive.
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/06/us/tsa-expands-duties-beyond-airport-security.html?_r=0&

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T.S.A. Expands Duties Beyond Airport Security (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Aug 2013 OP
Just what we need newfie11 Aug 2013 #1
No Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #2
We're all suspects on this bus... Ford_Prefect Aug 2013 #3
"Where are your papers?" Buns_of_Fire Aug 2013 #4
They give those clowns guns? WTF? TransitJohn Aug 2013 #5
Your tax dollars at work... Hubert Flottz Aug 2013 #6
And people laughed when I said this would be next Hydra Aug 2013 #7
FY2012 budget $109 million. bluedeathray Aug 2013 #8
I remember a TSA Agent and her dog (a beagle) mrdmk Aug 2013 #9

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
1. Just what we need
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 04:55 AM
Aug 2013

More cops.
I must have missed something cause I live at the End of the earth with no subways.

Has there been something to warrent this increased police action?

Buns_of_Fire

(17,159 posts)
4. "Where are your papers?"
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 06:28 AM
Aug 2013
“The problem with T.S.A. stopping and searching people in public places outside the airport is that there are no real legal standards, or probable cause,” said Khaliah Barnes, administrative law counsel at the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington. “It’s something that is easily abused because the reason that they are conducting the stops is shrouded in secrecy.”

T.S.A. officials respond that the random searches are “special needs” or “administrative searches” that are exempt from probable cause because they further the government’s need to prevent terrorist attacks.

"National Security! National Security!"

T.S.A. officials would not say if the VIPR teams had ever foiled a terrorist plot or thwarted any major threat to public safety, saying the information is classified. But they argue that the random searches and presence of armed officers serve as a deterrent that bolsters the public confidence.

Funny, I don't recall feeling confident as one of their little squads was rifling through my stuff at the frigging Orlando Greyhound bus terminal. I DO recall feeling righteously pissed off, though.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
7. And people laughed when I said this would be next
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 11:59 AM
Aug 2013

Even I didn't think they'd be TSA goons- I figured they'd open new divisions.

Here is comes, everyone...

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
9. I remember a TSA Agent and her dog (a beagle)
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 06:52 PM
Aug 2013

Standing in Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) after a twenty hour flight from London (Heathrow Airport). Looked down and saw this dog at the end of a leash sniffing my shoes (he was enjoying it). Followed the length of the leash to a women in a black uniform. The following conversation followed:

Me: Hi there!

TSA Agent: Hi!

Me: I think your dog will find me quite interesting.

TSA Agent: Oh really! Why is that?

Me: I have three dogs at home!

Boy, did she leave in a hurry. Did not even say good-bye or anything...

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