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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 08:21 AM Aug 2013

Wake up. We are at war in Yemen. Drones, U.S. troops on the ground training Yemenis.

We're heavily drone bombing in Yemen with the full backing of the U.S. backed Yemeni Government. Over the last 18 months or so there's been a dramatic intensification of the drone bombing and over the last 10 days there have been five drone attacks that we know of. We restarted military aid to Yemen last year and that includes U.S. troops on the ground doing training.

We are at war with Al-Qaida in Yemen, and yeah, it's a continuation of our endless war on terror.

So what's up? Well, Al-Qaida purportedly. I see no reason to doubt this. Lots of people scoff at the idea that A-Q is even functional and in most locations that's probably true, but they aren't having problems with recruitment and it takes little imagination to see why. It's a vicious circle. We're also after some bomb maker named Al-Asiri who we believe is in Yemen training more bomb makers.

Could this intensify further? Yes, of course it will. We're seeing that occur before our eyes. Whether you agree with it or not, it's happening.

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The intensified US focus on Yemen reflects at least in part the Yemeni Al Qaeda affiliate’s efforts not just to bring down the Yemeni government, but to strike the US on its soil. “AQAP has a particular track record of trying to attack the American homeland,” says Bruce Riedel, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington who advised the last four presidents on terrorism issues.

Several foiled plots of recent years – the underwear bomber in a plane over Detroit in 2009, the Chicago-bound package bombs of 2010 among them – emanated from AQAP.

That kind of activity, plus AQAP’s insurgency against the Yemeni government and its messianic and recruitment activity on the Internet, have drawn US attention and led to redoubled efforts to weaken the organization. US drone strikes in Yemen skyrocketed to 54 last year, compared with 15 in 2011, according to a database kept by Washington’s New America Foundation.

<snip>

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2013/0806/Yemen-drone-strike-and-US-evacuation-Signs-of-drone-war-intensification

<snip>

For puzzled Americans who've been told that al-Qaida is on the decline, the latest warnings raise questions about how successful America's war on terror has been and whether the terror group has been able to reorganize and reconstitute itself since bin Laden's death in May 2011.

And, although U.S. officials agreed a year ago to restart military aid to Yemen, it's unclear how much of the new aircraft and weapons have arrived. After aid to Yemen was frozen for some time, the U.S. military is once again on the ground there training Yemeni special operations forces and has delivered more than a dozen helicopters to the Yemeni military and provided training for them, U.S. defense officials said.

But other weapons and equipment are still in the pipeline, according to a Mideast official.

Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/08/state-dept-orders-evacuation-of-embassy-in-yemen-92343.html#ixzz2bHhvaLuZ

This is from last week:

US Department of Defense announces new military aid to Yemen

US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel confirmed on Tuesday during a meeting with President Abdo Rabbo Mansour Hadi that Washington would continue to support Yemen in its fight against terror by enhancing both the impoverished nation's military capability and its level of expertise through a tight collaboration involving the distribution of military equipment, training, rehabilitation and technology.
Yemen's long-standing partner against al-Qaeda, Washington suspended its military aid program in 2011 when the people rose against then-President Ali Abdullah Saleh. Once Yemen factions agreed on a political transition of power, the Pentagon resumed both its military and humanitarian assistance, as part of its reconstruction efforts.
Secretary of Defense Hagel told reporters, "Washington is keen to strengthen its relation and mutual cooperation with Yemen on various levels."
Earlier this month, Saba (Yemen state news agency) announced the White House was to boost Yemen's border guards efficiency through the delivery of 12 Seabird Sicre aircraft, all equipped with night vision and radioactive monitoring sensors as well as 100 military vehicles mounted with a state of the art integrated communication system.

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http://yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=7076

http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/dod-evacuates-non-essential-us-personnel-from-yemen-1.234047

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Wake up. We are at war in Yemen. Drones, U.S. troops on the ground training Yemenis. (Original Post) cali Aug 2013 OP
kick. I have no idea why this isn't of any interest to folks cali Aug 2013 #1
The protests would be planned and we would have a sign up page for volunteers Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #4
+1 KoKo Aug 2013 #17
Cali, we have ALWAYS been at war with Yemen. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #12
NPR was discussing this earlier this morning. Sounds like the Yemeni people bullwinkle428 Aug 2013 #2
I wish I'd caught that. cali Aug 2013 #3
BBC also G_j Aug 2013 #14
Report from Yemen last night on Newsnight: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #20
More info: ProSense Aug 2013 #5
and? what is your point? cali Aug 2013 #6
You don't want more information about what the administration is doing? ProSense Aug 2013 #8
I don't have any aversion to more information, I simply wonder cali Aug 2013 #10
My point was more info, see the post title. ProSense Aug 2013 #13
Yemen = mini Afghanistan. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #7
yeah, I think that's a good comparison. cali Aug 2013 #11
And that's why they're leaving n/t malaise Aug 2013 #9
Another PR war to cover the wars we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #15
K&R nt. polly7 Aug 2013 #16
We have always been at war with Yemenasia. nt woo me with science Aug 2013 #18
It isn't war when the government invites you in to help. eom millennialmax Aug 2013 #19
Of course it can be. that's simply a ridiculous statement. cali Aug 2013 #21
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
1. kick. I have no idea why this isn't of any interest to folks
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:08 AM
Aug 2013

I find it compelling What's going on? why this escalation of the war on terror?

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
4. The protests would be planned and we would have a sign up page for volunteers
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:51 AM
Aug 2013

if Romney was in office at the present moment.

kenny blankenship

(15,689 posts)
12. Cali, we have ALWAYS been at war with Yemen.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:25 AM
Aug 2013

Or rather, with the people of Yemen to be more exact. The government over there we like just fine, until we find one we like better.

Get the memos, read the memos.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
2. NPR was discussing this earlier this morning. Sounds like the Yemeni people
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:22 AM
Aug 2013

are already pretty pissed off about the depth of U.S. involvement, and it will really get ratcheted up if we end up putting troops on the ground.

What a great idea - sowing the seeds for the next 9/11!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. I wish I'd caught that.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:49 AM
Aug 2013

I suspect that this is an all out effort- doomed to fail- to destroy AQ. Al-Zawahiri has named some Yemen AQ member as his 2nd in command.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
20. Report from Yemen last night on Newsnight:
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 11:45 AM
Aug 2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b038bq3g/Newsnight_06_08_2013/

Starts at about 11 minutes - about 15 minutes long. There'll be more reports from this reporter this weekend.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. More info:
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:57 AM
Aug 2013
Letter from the President -- Regarding the War Powers Resolution

<...>

Yemen. The U.S. military has also been working closely with the Yemeni government to dismantle operationally and ultimately eliminate the terrorist threat posed by al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), the most active and dangerous affiliate of al-Qa'ida today. Our joint efforts have resulted in direct action against a limited number of AQAP operatives and senior leaders in Yemen who posed a terrorist threat to the United States and our interests.

<...>

As noted in previous reports, the United States remains prepared to conduct maritime interception operations on the high seas in the areas of responsibility of each of the geographic combatant commands. These maritime operations are aimed at stopping the movement, arming, and financing of certain international terrorist groups, and also include operations aimed at stopping proliferation by sea of weapons of mass destruction and related materials. As detailed in my report of January 28, 2013, and at my direction, on January 23, 2013, a U.S. Navy warship with Yemeni Coast Guard personnel aboard entered Yemeni territorial waters, at the invitation of the Government of Yemen, to assist the Government of Yemen in intercepting and inspecting a vessel suspected of smuggling contraband into Yemen. Upon boarding and searching the vessel, a combined U.S. and Yemeni team discovered various conventional weapons and explosives, apparently of Iranian origin, concealed within the vessel. The vessel was escorted to Aden and turned over to the Yemeni Coast Guard on January 30, 2013.

<...>

As detailed in my report of December 14, 2012, the security forces that deployed to Libya on September 12, 2012, and the security forces deployed to Yemen on September 13, 2012, to support the security of U.S. personnel remain in place and will remain until the security situation no longer requires them. On May 17, 2013, approximately 30 additional U.S. forces deployed to Libya to further support the security of U.S. personnel in Libya.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/06/14/letter-president-regarding-war-powers-resolution

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. and? what is your point?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:00 AM
Aug 2013

that it's legal? that isn't particularly germane to the points I'm making or the questions raised by this escalation.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. You don't want more information about what the administration is doing?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:02 AM
Aug 2013

The Afghanistan war is legal. Does that mean you can't oppose it and call for an end to it?

Why the aversion to more information?



 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. I don't have any aversion to more information, I simply wonder
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:22 AM
Aug 2013

what point you're making? Why the aversion to ever answering a simple question? You almost always answer with either questions or links. Why?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. My point was more info, see the post title.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:30 AM
Aug 2013

"Why the aversion to ever answering a simple question?"

You want answers to questions that are based on reading things into the posts that are not there.

I don't answer questions based on straw men.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. Yemen = mini Afghanistan.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:02 AM
Aug 2013

Gotta fight the terrorists, can't let them win, current tactics and strategy have no hope of succeeding.

Yee haw.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
15. Another PR war to cover the wars we lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 10:34 AM
Aug 2013

Maybe they should discover WMD in Grenada and terror cells in Andorra and go for a win there.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
21. Of course it can be. that's simply a ridiculous statement.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 11:55 AM
Aug 2013

the escalation in Yemen is part of the endless war on terror. No one denies this.

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