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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 03:29 PM Aug 2013

What I'd do if I was in a government and wanted to get access to

important and potentially dangerous information being communicated online:

I'd have somebody start some companies that offered Internet users complete privacy for their communications. Unbreakable encryption, IP anonymity, and other features that people could use to hide the content and even the existence of their communications. I'd make those companies appear to be clearly non-government, and would probably use content that condemned the government for spying on people and decrying that spying. I'd bury any evidence that the government was in any way involved with the companies so deeply that it would be known by only a few people who were absolutely trustworthy.

And then, I'd watch what flowed through the companies carefully, have computers to parse the information, looking for stuff of interest to the government. Then, I'd encrypt it as promised and send it along to its destination. Any information found that had to do with terrorist plans or plots to damage the government would be carefully cleaned of its connection with that company and fed to agencies whose job it was do deal with such plans and plots.

That's what I'd do. I might even base the company in some neutral country or do anything else I could think of to keep the actual government ownership a secret. I might even let it slip that the government was able to snoop on private communications so people would feel threatened and want access to anonymous, encrypted communications capabilities.

If someone came sniffing around eventually, I'd just shut one of the companies down suddenly and claim that I was doing so because the government was about to demand access to information.

Yup, that's what I'd do. Absolutely. But I'm very clever. Probably, governments aren't smart enough to think up something like that, you know. Governments are really stupid and don't really understand technological possiblities Yeah...they wouldn't do something like that....

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What I'd do if I was in a government and wanted to get access to (Original Post) MineralMan Aug 2013 OP
Right on! RobertEarl Aug 2013 #1
A government. Any government. MineralMan Aug 2013 #2
True RobertEarl Aug 2013 #4
What's your point? n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #3
Just something to think about, you know. MineralMan Aug 2013 #5
do a search for TOR (the onion router) alc Aug 2013 #6
Yah. What got me thinking, though, was the sudden closure of MineralMan Aug 2013 #7
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
1. Right on!
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 03:35 PM
Aug 2013

"No one ever imagined they'd fly airplanes into buildings" Wink>>

This is your government. Get used to it, or what?

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
2. A government. Any government.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 03:37 PM
Aug 2013

Not just the US government. I'm not being restrictive at all, you know. Anyone can offer "secure" communications services. Anyone.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
4. True
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 03:41 PM
Aug 2013

And not just anyone can tell the military to fly the other way, away from the action.

Nice to see realization; that parts of our government are as crooked as any Mafia. Not too many of the formerly anti-CT people are so anti-CT these days. They've been edumacted, eh?

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
5. Just something to think about, you know.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 03:43 PM
Aug 2013

It's something worth thinking about, if you're interested in secure communications.

alc

(1,151 posts)
6. do a search for TOR (the onion router)
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 03:49 PM
Aug 2013

The government says they helped build it for their own use but it only works if lots of us use it. There are plenty of conspiracy theories that they actually built it to get us using their system for encrypted/anonymous traffic so that they can track that traffic. I have discounted those theories in the past but may reconsider. Even if their initial intentions were good I have little doubt they are doing everything they can to enable monitoring now.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
7. Yah. What got me thinking, though, was the sudden closure of
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 03:57 PM
Aug 2013

a couple of "secure" email providers. I found that very interesting, you know...

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