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I live in a small town. There's one traffic light in the whole town. A few days ago on a freezing cold morning I was dropping my kids off at school and this woman was standing on the corner by the traffic light. I asked if I could take her picture and is she minded me posting it on the internet to help spread her message.
CTyankee
(63,708 posts)Zax2me
(2,515 posts)Though I know some aren't.
roody
(10,849 posts)Who has been hurt?
saras
(6,670 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)Bradley Manning put NO ONE at risk. In fact, he's probably saved numerous lies by exposing these travesties. The military industrial complex really doesn't need your help in spreading lies. They do a damned good job of that themselves.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)but Manning (and every other military member) knew all along that he was subject to court-martial for breaking the law while in the military.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)What if Manning is being used as a scapegoat to cover up the crimes that were exposed by Wikileaks, his "trial" intended to be a distraction (and a darned successful one, I have to admit) from the culpability of our military in breaking the law?
jmowreader
(50,419 posts)"Thou shalt not provide classified information to people not authorized to receive it"...like Julian Assange.
Manning's only defense, and it's unlikely, is if someone else provided the information to WikiLeaks. IIRC Assange has confirmed that Manning did, indeed, provide Assange the information at issue here.
Whether the military broke the law is not the question in this case; the issue is, Manning did break the law.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)For the very fact that WikiLeak sources are anonymous.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)That Assange never admitted otherwise is immaterial, he is just trying to keep himself from prosecution.
Manning himself has admitted as much that he was the source for the leaks to Adrian Lamo.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)before an impartial jury. He is entitled to present his defense and is only guilty after a verdict has been reached.
Manning was kept in near solitary confinement. I'm sure that by this time he is prepared to confess to anything.
I have no idea what he did or did not do, but he is entitled to due process.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Talk of evidence and due process isn't very popular in the U.S. nowadays. And the possibility of the accused being tortured (solitary confinement, lights on for 23 hours out of the day, stripped naked for weeks on end under "suicide watch" surveillance) has been found to be immaterial to any charges prosecutors can think up. We have to protect our empire!
Us commander buzzkills who insist on following the Constitution are increasingly becoming dinosaurs.
Renew Deal
(81,774 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)garybeck
(9,927 posts)n/t
RC
(25,592 posts)I agree with her sign.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)laruemtt
(3,992 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 23, 2012, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)
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Remove the space between // and solarbus.
Or this -
garybeck
(9,927 posts)Raine
(30,520 posts)garybeck
(9,927 posts)Raine
(30,520 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)You can't see the picture in my post, but you can see the second one?
garybeck just reposted the picture from my site. You should see both.
garybeck
(9,927 posts)Zax2me
(2,515 posts)NOT.
Support what he did, but any court would not have a hard time finding his violation of the law.
The Doctor.
(17,266 posts)It's that the Fed intends to make an example out of him in what will go down in history as a mockery of justice. This isn't about the government seeking 'justice', it's simply a vendetta.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)The Doctor.
(17,266 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)All of us are suspect now. The cyber-eyes spy and spy; they know what we think, if we post on the internet. They know where we live. They control how we will die.
Some people won't even be arrested - it's possible to make someone very ill with cancer by simply installing a micro wave propagator near the person's residence.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)People who aren't cowards usually don't have an issue with defending what they say. People who just want to recklessly throw around lies usually go with the hit and run route.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)He or she said they knew of people hurt by Manning's releases, but they cannot substantiate the remark.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)They've got enough of those as it is. It really saddens me to see an MIC puppet here on DU.
WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Johnson20
(315 posts)the difference between a military tribunal and a general court-martial.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Court marshal is the normal legal process for someone accused of a crime in the military. Follows the UMCJ. Has been around since we had a military. Has all the "normal" protections for the accused they'd get in a civilian federal court.
What, exactly is she asking for? Manning to be tried in federal court instead?
Norrin Radd
(4,959 posts)vanlassie
(5,631 posts)But this is the MOST important thing she had to do this day. Good for her.