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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 12:11 PM Aug 2013

The Mennonite Ghost Rapes Of Bolivia (Stunned!Jeebus,Jeebus,Jeebus....Still in shock....)

For a while, the residents of Manitoba Colony thought demons were raping the town’s women. There was no other explanation. No way of explaining how a woman could wake up with blood and semen stains smeared across her sheets and no memory of the previous night. No way of explaining how another went to sleep clothed, only to wake up naked and covered by dirty fingerprints all over her body. No way to understand how another could dream of a man forcing himself onto her in a field—and then wake up the next morning with grass in her hair.

For Sara Guenter, the mystery was the rope. She would sometimes wake up in her bed with small pieces of it tied tightly to her wrists or ankles, the skin beneath an aching blue. Earlier this year, I visited Sara at her home, simple concrete painted to look like brick, in Manitoba Colony, Bolivia. Mennonites are similar to the Amish in their rejection of modernity and technology, and Manitoba Colony, like all ultraconservative Mennonite communities, is a collective attempt to retreat as far as possible from the nonbelieving world. A slight breeze of soy and sorghum came off the nearby fields as Sara told me how, in addition to the eerie rope, on those mornings after she’d been raped she would also wake to stained sheets, thunderous headaches, and paralyzing lethargy.
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Then, one night in June 2009, two men were caught trying to enter a neighbor’s home. The two ratted out a few friends and, falling like a house of cards, a group of nine Manitoba men, ages 19 to 43, eventually confessed that they had been raping Colony families since 2005. To incapacitate their victims and any possible witnesses, the men used a spray created by a veterinarian from a neighboring Mennonite community that he had adapted from a chemical used to anesthetize cows. According to their initial confessions (which they later recanted), the rapists admitted to—sometimes in groups, sometimes alone—hiding outside bedroom windows at night, spraying the substance through the screens to drug entire families, and then crawling inside.

But it wasn’t until their trial, which took place almost two years later, in 2011, that the full scope of their crimes came to light. The transcripts read like a horror movie script: Victims ranged in age from three to 65 (the youngest had a broken hymen, purportedly from finger penetration). The girls and women were married, single, residents, visitors, the mentally infirm. Though it’s never discussed and was not part of the legal case, residents privately told me that men and boys were raped, too.
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Helena, like the other rape victims in Manitoba, was never offered the chance to speak with a professional therapist, even though she said she would if given the opportunity. “Why would they need counseling if they weren’t even awake when it happened?” Manitoba Colony Bishop Johan Neurdorf, the community’s highest authority, had told a visitor back in 2009 after the perpetrators were caught.

Other victims I interviewed—those who awoke during the rapes, as well as those with no memory of the night—said that they would also have liked to speak with a therapist about their experiences but that doing so would be nearly impossible because there are no Low German-speaking sexual-trauma recovery experts in Bolivia.
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Much, much more: http://www.vice.com/read/the-ghost-rapes-of-bolivia-000300-v20n8?Contentpage=-1

Reading this was like watching a horror movie that is all too real.
The depravity in ths community is beyond my comprehension.
I hope something will be done, but after reading the whole story, I don't have high hopes.

smh.....smh.....smh.....smh....smh....

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The Mennonite Ghost Rapes Of Bolivia (Stunned!Jeebus,Jeebus,Jeebus....Still in shock....) (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Aug 2013 OP
Religion has long been a mask for men to do what they want with women malaise Aug 2013 #1
I know I haven't scraped the surface of depraved acts. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2013 #2
+1000000 nt riderinthestorm Aug 2013 #4
So true. Shit like this happened in Buddhist temples too. n/t vaberella Aug 2013 #6
but religion wasn't the excuse in this case. that's why they did it secretly. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #12
^^^THIS^^^ valerief Aug 2013 #14
I also think that somebody older has been doing this in some form for a while. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2013 #18
k and r-- as you said, the utter depravity is beyond comprehension. the sheer hatred for women niyad Aug 2013 #3
"Insular groups of men will often do bad things". A quote from an article about religious SharonAnn Aug 2013 #5
they did it *secretly*. hierarchical structure had nothing to do with it. judging from the picture HiPointDem Aug 2013 #13
insular groups of men do bad things--not just religious context BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2013 #23
... undeterred Aug 2013 #7
like you, having read that entire horrifying article, I doubt anything will be done. niyad Aug 2013 #8
These events have been mentioned at DU since 2009. Unbelievably ugly! Judi Lynn Aug 2013 #9
Jim Jones version 2 malaise Aug 2013 #11
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2013 #10
Kick Scurrilous Aug 2013 #15
They honestly thought it was demons getting medieval on their asses? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #16
When you are sheltered from almost everything especially sex, Are_grits_groceries Aug 2013 #17
Yeah,...and interdimensional rope is really common. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #19
I understand your skepticism. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2013 #21
"They aren't that far off anyway." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #22
I didn't mean the supernatural. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2013 #24
So is a banker. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #25
Vile and depraved theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #20

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
2. I know I haven't scraped the surface of depraved acts.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 12:19 PM
Aug 2013

This one would be right up there.
I want to throw up and beat the hell out of someone. Forgiveness my ass!

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
18. I also think that somebody older has been doing this in some form for a while.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 04:11 PM
Aug 2013

It could have gone on much longer than stated. The young men weren't careful enough.
The guy with the ketamine or whatever didn't suddenly think of this vile use. He probably used it himself.

niyad

(113,274 posts)
3. k and r-- as you said, the utter depravity is beyond comprehension. the sheer hatred for women
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 12:30 PM
Aug 2013

that could even THINK of something like this, much less perpetrate it, makes me ill. and the cold, hateful callous indifference of that bishop to what the victims endured is beyond disgusting.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
5. "Insular groups of men will often do bad things". A quote from an article about religious
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 12:43 PM
Aug 2013

sexual abuse.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04/02/a-woman-s-place-is-in-the-church.html

The authoritarian, patriarchal, hierarchical structure leaves men unaccountable. It is true everywhere this structure exists, particularly in groups that are governed by religion but not only there.

About the Catholic Church:
"The problem—bluntly put—is that the bishops and cardinals who manage the institutional church live behind guarded walls in a pre-Enlightenment world. Within their enclave, they remain largely untouched by the democratic revolutions in France and America. On questions of morality, they hold the group—in this case, the church—above the individual and regard modernity as a threat."

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
13. they did it *secretly*. hierarchical structure had nothing to do with it. judging from the picture
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 02:10 PM
Aug 2013

all but one are young men, not men likely to have high rank in the colony hierarchy.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
23. insular groups of men do bad things--not just religious context
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:30 AM
Aug 2013

Sports. Military. Government. Fraternities.

The problem is MEN.

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
9. These events have been mentioned at DU since 2009. Unbelievably ugly!
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 01:11 PM
Aug 2013

The story doesn't even seem possible, but too many people are certain it is, with no doubts whatsoever.



Bolivia arrests 8 Mennonite men accused of raping more than 60 women at their farm community
6-24-09
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3936513

Mennonite father dies in Bolivia after being hung for nine hours
9-17-09
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6579451

Life in a remote Mennonite community continues in the aftermath of a scandal
10-22-10
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=214x263625

Bolivian Mennonites jailed for serial rapes
8-26-11



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x623866

Earlier this month: A Verdict in Bolivia's Shocking Case of the Mennonite Rapes
8-27-11
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x623867

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Arrested Bolivian Mennonites



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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
17. When you are sheltered from almost everything especially sex,
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 04:06 PM
Aug 2013

waking up with those symptoms would make me wonder about demons or whatever. Not remembering anything would give me the willies.
Imagine this story in the US.
Somebody should catch a clue and do a drug screen and examination. However, I imagine that some of our religious cretins would spout some nonsense.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
21. I understand your skepticism.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:34 PM
Aug 2013

However,the women wouldn't even talk to each other. Even if you had a clue,who would you tell.The male leaders aren't exactly sympathetic.
It was probably easier to agree with demons. They aren't that far off anyway.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. "They aren't that far off anyway."
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:29 PM
Aug 2013

I disagree. These were crimes by humans. People tend to call the people who do things like this "devils" and such but that just encourages the belief in the superstition that there are actual demons.

Let's not Flip out with "The devil made me do it".

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
24. I didn't mean the supernatural.
Sun Aug 11, 2013, 11:52 AM
Aug 2013

I meant that their behavior is what a person who had a demon's personality would probably do.

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