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malaise

(268,949 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 04:10 PM Aug 2013

Question for DU Experts - in the history of America

has any House of Representatives ever attempted to defund a bill that was passed by both branches of government, signed by the President, became law and then received the approval of the Supreme Court?

Is this merely sabotage or something else?

Are the loudest voices being paid hacks of health industry corporations?

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Question for DU Experts - in the history of America (Original Post) malaise Aug 2013 OP
They're not bright enough for sabotage. arcane1 Aug 2013 #1
Lobbyists have the brains. Pols can be dumb as dirt. nt valerief Aug 2013 #3
I think that's more for their financial backers than for malaise Aug 2013 #5
Boener gave this away recently when he HeiressofBickworth Aug 2013 #7
I thought you vote against bills malaise Aug 2013 #9
been wondering about this also rurallib Aug 2013 #2
I really want to know the answer malaise Aug 2013 #6
when a law is a goldmine for "health industry corporations" they are not likely to kill it nt msongs Aug 2013 #4
I know DU has at least one trained historian. zappaman Aug 2013 #8
Lots of bills pass and aren't funded. Igel Aug 2013 #10
Thanks Igel malaise Aug 2013 #11
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. They're not bright enough for sabotage.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 04:17 PM
Aug 2013

They do this so they can go back to their constituents and say "re-elect me, I voted to end Obamacare". That's my guess anyway.

malaise

(268,949 posts)
5. I think that's more for their financial backers than for
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 05:41 PM
Aug 2013

people who are benefiting from Obamacare

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
7. Boener gave this away recently when he
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 06:01 PM
Aug 2013

was asked why they were going to vote yet again to eliminate Obamacare. His response was to give the newer members of the House the opportunity to vote against it.

malaise

(268,949 posts)
9. I thought you vote against bills
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 07:13 PM
Aug 2013

during the law making process not after they were settled law.
ReTHUGs are sick fuggs.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
10. Lots of bills pass and aren't funded.
Sat Aug 10, 2013, 08:01 PM
Aug 2013

Part of the illegal-immigrant amnesty in the '80s included setting up something like e-verify. Didn't happen.

SpEd funding has never reached 100%.

If you don't have to fund something, you don't have to fund something. Thing is, the law still takes effect unless implementation is made contingent upon funding. Now *that* would be amusing, seeing the Executive deal with an unfunded mandate. (School districts do it all the time.)

Congress is free to ignore a lot of things simply because there's nobody with standing to sue or sovereign immunity shields them. All nuclear waste has long since been required to be stored at a national nuclear waste repository. The only one that anybody worked on was disqualified. Now we have a law and no implementation.



Note that SCOTUS' approval has precisely nothing to do with it. (In fact, SCOTUS' "approval" was revising what a lot of Congressfolk had said. It's a fee, not a tax. Uh, no, it's a tax, not a fee. Whatever.)

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