Snowden's Dad: If Edward Would Have Stayed In the USA: "He would have been buried under the capital"
Last edited Mon Aug 12, 2013, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)
UPDATE TO ADD:
People who are secretly breaking the 4th amendment to the hilt have no business calling a man who blew the whistle on them a traitor and railroading him for reporting their guilty secrets.
added, because, EVERYONE should read the transcript:
(not break into small groups for/against)
http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-lon-snowden-donald-trump/storynew?id=19926953&page=3
STEPHANOPOULOS: You don't think he would have been protected by the whistle blower status?
SNOWDEN: Absolutely not.
And maybe at some point, we should go through that. You know, just hypothetically, let's imagine that Edward Snowden said, wow, there's a problem -- let's say he got on an airline in Honolulu and he chose to fly to Washington, D.C., lands at Dulles and he actually gets an audience with, oh, let's say, Peter King or Dianne Feinstein, how do we think that he would have been received if he had a private audience with them? We have seen how they reacted, even when the truth comes out, they spin the truth, they try to hide it from the American people. He would have been buried under the capital. And we would have never known the truth.
FULL TRANSCRIPT:
http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-lon-snowden-donald-trump/storynew?id=19926953&page=2
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Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming!
Edward Snowden's Dad Calls Him 'Modern Day Paul Revere'
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/edward-snowdens-dad-calls-modern-day-paul-revere/story?id=19554337
Hmmm... who knew how influential a DU meme could be
Dad is right again!
he has stated they 'put me and my family through five years of Hell'. Even though they knew he had broken no rules, they persecuted him for five years, filed false charges against him which carried decades of prison time, and then after costing him a decades long distinguished career in the Military and and in Intelligence, the day before they had to PROVE their allegations, they dropped all phony charges against him.
He has some advice for Whistle Blowers in this country now.
Yes, Whistle Blowers should 'trust' such a system where there is no protection for them! 
Oh my God!!! 
I'm sure that's a shock to someone out there. And I bet whoever this is a shock to will be the first one lining up to buy this book.
Oh my Lord. But kudos on trying to have the discussion. It was a valiant effort though I'm sure that you realize by now that you COMPLETELY wasted your time.
intelligent, concerned and not bought by anybody.
Everything he says makes sense if you look at the video of the interview with Steph.
Lon Snowden
I don't equate either Ed or Lon Snowden with those two.
I've heard all four of them speak at this point. They're all intelligent. But only two are badly twisted. 
a few months ago...so thank you for this OP.
Michael Hayden is extreme. Interesting what he said about the bulk
collection of phone records. To ban them would damage national
security...it would be almost fun to research ol' Hayden and find out
if there's a conflict of interest in his background with a government
contracted security company doing the spying.
We've been lied to so much particularly during the last 13 years that
unfortunately my first knee jerk is always distrust. However, I think
the government has earned that.
HA! I just read the link (always do before I hit "send"
..well, well,
well ol' Hayden and Scheiffer couldn't have been more dishonest in
failing to disclose all the facts. BUT, somehow, they are allowed to
label Edward Snowden a traitor! Amazing.
But dad is OK with him running off to two communist countries to share information he took an oath to protect?
YES!
Are the people in the country free to say whatever they want? NO!
And don't tell anyone your sexual orientation for fear you will go to jail.
YES, China and Russia are fine examples of society! FINE EXAMPLES!
One minute we are boycotting the Russian Olympics because of the government, the next we are praising them for Snowden.
Which is it? If we are such good friends with Russia, why didn't they hand over Snowden? and Why isn't Obama meeting with Putin?
Daddy Traitor is as STOOPID, in his little fantasy world, as Eddie "The New Russian" Traitor!
Be proud Daddy! Be very proud of your Russian Lap Dog son!
Russia...what a great country to pick to live in...one of THE premiere Human AND Civil Rights abusers!!!!!!! Way to go Traitor Eddie!
Snowden-haters are helping to point the finger in the wrong direction
FEIN: Yes. Let's go that. And what he said was, oh, Mr. Snowden should have gone to the congressional oversight committees. The congressional oversight committees have gone on record, Dianne Feinstein: he's guilty of treason. These were the committees that knew for seven years what was going on and refused to disclose it to the American people. The best was some cryptic statements.
If the American knew what was going on, they would be stunned.
And Edward Snowden is supposed to go to them? That seems rather implausible, because they were the ones who were responsible for the secrecy.
http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-lon-snowden-donald-trump/storynew?id=19926953&page=3
again, read the transcript, be aware, learn...
why are WE always for or against?
Why can't we just be seekers of truth and justice?
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Private Manning gives me my MAIN thinking for why Snowden can NEVER come home.
(I know, I know he was military...apples and oranges, bla bla bla)
Manning & Snowden are both being used to scare anyone interested in MORE info that is
hidden under the name of "national security"
They are determined to ruin Manning's life (& SCARE ALL WHISTLEBLOWERS IN THE PROCESS)
BECAUSE along with some other docs, he revealed these:
a list of 10 revelations disclosed by Manning’s leaked documents that offer insight into the breadth and scope of what he revealed, help explain his motivation for leaking, and provide context for the ongoing trial. The list, in no particular order, is far from comprehensive but encompasses some of the most significant information brought to light by the leaked documents.
There were 109,032 “violent deaths” recorded in Iraq between 2004 and 2009, including 66,081 civilians. Leaked records from the Afghan War separately revealed coalition troops’ alleged role in killing at least 195 civilians in unreported incidents, one reportedly involving U.S. service members machine-gunning a bus, wounding or killing 15 passengers.
The U.S. Embassy in Paris advised Washington to start a military-style trade war against any European Union country that opposed genetically modified crops, with U.S. diplomats effectively working directly for GM companies such as Monsanto.
British and American officials colluded in a plan to mislead the British Parliament over a proposed ban on cluster bombs.
In Baghdad in 2007, a U.S. Army helicopter gunned down a group of civilians, including two Reuters news staff.
U.S. special operations forces were conducting offensive operations inside Pakistan despite sustained public denials and statements to the contrary by U.S. officials.
A leaked diplomatic cable provided evidence that during an incident in 2006, U.S. troops in Iraq executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians, including a woman in her 70s and a 5-month-old, then called in an airstrike to destroy the evidence. The disclosure of this cable was later a significant factor in the Iraqi government’s refusal to grant U.S. troops immunity from prosecution beyond 2011, which led to U.S. troops withdrawing from the country.
A NATO coalition in Afghanistan was using an undisclosed “black” unit of special operations forces to hunt down targets for death or detention without trial. The unit was revealed to have had a kill-or-capture list featuring details of more than 2,000 senior figures from the Taliban and al-Qaida, but it had in some cases mistakenly killed men, women, children, and Afghan police officers.
The U.S. threatened the Italian government in an attempt to influence a court case involving the indictment of CIA agents over the kidnapping of an Egyptian cleric. Separately, U.S. officials were revealed to have pressured Spanish prosecutors to dissuade them from investigating U.S. torture allegations, secret “extraordinary rendition” flights, and the killing of a Spanish journalist by U.S. troops in Iraq.
In apparent violation of a 1946 U.N. convention, Washington initiated a spying campaign in 2009 that targeted the leadership of the U.N. by seeking to gather top officials’ private encryption keys, credit card details, and biometric data.
No matter what he "could" have done, nobody would have helped him! So he "had" to run to China then Russia because the "evil" U.S. government would have done him in because we all know just how bad the "government" is, and how great a job China and Russia are doing when it comes to making sure all their citizens "rights" are protected! 
It seems no matter what, the Snowden, Greenwald loyalists will never admit there is anything "fishy" about what happened with Snowden.
there's never been a defector to Russia before . . . .
