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Oh so puzzling. Answer sought about the number of Republican scientists? (Original Post) Mira Aug 2013 OP
It is puzzling liberal N proud Aug 2013 #1
It's logic, Eddie Haskell Aug 2013 #15
Could it be that faith-based-science is generally seen in the same light as black-magic? 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #2
Very good question. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #3
Smart Republicans tend toward big-buck careers, certainly not ones that have non-monetary rewards. reformist2 Aug 2013 #4
There are "smart" republicans? hobbit709 Aug 2013 #5
:) reformist2 Aug 2013 #7
Three percent of Republicans are smart. Scientist have no explanation why Coyotl Aug 2013 #10
But modrepub Aug 2013 #16
If "smart" is a money maker I know a lot of people who are under paid. TalkingDog Aug 2013 #18
Good points - I just meant to distinguish those who do well academically vs. those who don't. reformist2 Aug 2013 #23
How many Republican scientists can you fit on the head of a pin? Thor_MN Aug 2013 #6
:) Lochloosa Aug 2013 #9
:) Thor_MN Aug 2013 #40
Ya know... it really doesn't take a whole lot of prompting to link the terms TalkingDog Aug 2013 #19
:) Thor_MN Aug 2013 #41
k&r... spanone Aug 2013 #8
I used to work with a couple of Republican, conservative scientists. LisaLynne Aug 2013 #11
My old geology professor was a Republican. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #17
Using "biblical dating" we've determined this trilobite fossil to be 26 years old NightWatcher Aug 2013 #20
I'm pretty sure my old geology prof accepted evolution, Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #37
"Republican scientist" is like "carnivorous vegan." Orrex Aug 2013 #12
Do you have a link for that claim? n/t cpwm17 Aug 2013 #13
No Mira Aug 2013 #29
Slate Article/Pew Poll One_Life_To_Give Aug 2013 #36
Economics and Eugenics Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #14
In the teabagger brain this is proof positive ... Martin Eden Aug 2013 #21
The D Scientists are the third wayers despised on DU mathematic Aug 2013 #22
That's a nice little hate-filled rant. loudsue Aug 2013 #25
I'm one of those democratic scientist "DINOS".... mike_c Aug 2013 #28
Enjoy your stay. N/T denbot Aug 2013 #39
Attaboy! mathematic Aug 2013 #42
Reality has a well-known liberal bias. wtmusic Aug 2013 #24
A certain number of scientists are libertarians starroute Aug 2013 #26
thomas massie tsnew Aug 2013 #27
K&R n/t Dalai_1 Aug 2013 #30
This is so true and is so sad Gothmog Aug 2013 #31
The Republican mind does not allow for concrete or abstract thought. Rex Aug 2013 #32
I do not buy it PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #33
One problem with the figure ThoughtCriminal Aug 2013 #34
'Scientist' is a broad term. Avalux Aug 2013 #35
Hopefully that 6% are not among the climate-change and/or round-earth deniers. And indepat Aug 2013 #38
any career minded Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #43

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
4. Smart Republicans tend toward big-buck careers, certainly not ones that have non-monetary rewards.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 08:42 AM
Aug 2013

Just thinking aloud, but I think it's a pretty good first guess.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
10. Three percent of Republicans are smart. Scientist have no explanation why
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 08:53 AM
Aug 2013

so many smart people are Republicans except that their parents were Republicans too.

Once in a while smart people are born to ordinary Republicans. This gives scientists hope for the future

modrepub

(3,494 posts)
16. But
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:35 AM
Aug 2013

what about all those millions of dollars the global warming scientists are grabbing? Surely these monetary rewards would be large enough to attracts hoards of republican scientists, right?

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
18. If "smart" is a money maker I know a lot of people who are under paid.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:03 AM
Aug 2013

Smart is a wiggly term, but I assume you are talking IQ. High IQ people, according to studies like one from Ohio State University show that "There is no relationship between IQ scores and net wealth," said economist Jay Zagorsky, who conducted the study.

I know a number of people who are in MENSA (the smart club) and some of them.... well, let me illustrate. A few of them were riding together to come to my house for dinner. They ran out of gas...... twice.

Now, a smart person may (or may not) have a flair for business, but it is more likely that an orientation toward the self and gain for the self and a lack of empathy towards others is a much better indicator of who will be successful in business.

(Case in point, did you notice that Bill Gates only started giving his money away after he got married? Before then, it never occurred to him that he'd never be able to spend, use or get rid of all that money. His wife pointed it out to him.)

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
23. Good points - I just meant to distinguish those who do well academically vs. those who don't.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:28 AM
Aug 2013

By no means did I intend to make it sound like "smart" repubs are better than "dumb" repubs!

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
19. Ya know... it really doesn't take a whole lot of prompting to link the terms
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:06 AM
Aug 2013

Republican with pin and head. ....Just sayin'

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
11. I used to work with a couple of Republican, conservative scientists.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 08:58 AM
Aug 2013

One actually was something of a religious nut to boot. So, from this small sampling, I'll tell you that it was economics, basically, for both of them. They felt they were the best and the brightest and needed to make sure they kept their money away from the unwashed masses, such as women, people of color, people who weren't born to already rich families. However, both of these guys were at the end of the their careers and beyond retirement, so they were relics from a past era, IMHO.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
17. My old geology professor was a Republican.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:49 AM
Aug 2013

Of course that was in the mid-60's, and he had already gotten rich finding oil in Alaska for Standard Oil or somebody.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
20. Using "biblical dating" we've determined this trilobite fossil to be 26 years old
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:13 AM
Aug 2013

....And the dinosaurs that were in the area were nothing more than lizards that didn't stop growing. (My brother actually "believes" that dinosaurs were around a few thousand years ago and are really lizards that didn't stop growing)

Mira

(22,380 posts)
29. No
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:16 PM
Aug 2013

but I bet a scientific study would come close to confirming it.
It's mostly a dig - with sarcasm and frustration- at the paucity of intellect that is in use by our Republican brethren.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
36. Slate Article/Pew Poll
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 04:57 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2010/12/lab_politics.html

Went looking myself. Would be interesting to see a more detailed breakdown by Field and Degree. In my own experience Engineering has been more conservative than that.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
21. In the teabagger brain this is proof positive ...
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:17 AM
Aug 2013

... that scientists are part of the vast liberal conspiracy of lies.

(I meant this as a joke, but I'm pretty sure that's what most of them would conclude from such a statistic)

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
22. The D Scientists are the third wayers despised on DU
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:27 AM
Aug 2013

The poll referenced by the graphic is of AAAS members, not all scientists. (It was 55%/6% D/R).

These democrats are your usual gmo supportin', public school reformin', scientific consensus followin' types. So go ahead and use this graphic as a bludgeon to show that republicans are anti-science but know that the democratic scientists would be branded insufficiently pure DINOs (or worse! corporate shills) by DU "democrats".

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
42. Attaboy!
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:16 PM
Aug 2013

Good job ferreting out another one!

I figure somebody ought to commend you for such a job well done.

What gave it away? Was it my use of data from the survey (the breakdown between D/R)? Or was it my use of information about the survey (the polled were all AAAS members)? Or perhaps it was my use of information about the organization (the AAAS actually issued a statement against GMO labeling laws)? Maybe it was because I looked up the survey behind the info-graphic ("helpfully" not included in the OP) and actually added some facts and, yes, some site-specific commentary, to the discussion.

Thanks but please spare me the back-slapping we-heart-science BSing. Left leaning contrarians, who form a seemingly increasing portion of DU, couldn't care less about science. Over and over again I see the voices on DU presenting the scientific consensus on certain issues get shouted down. God bless 'em, they keep trying.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
26. A certain number of scientists are libertarians
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:55 AM
Aug 2013

It appeals to their belief that the world can be run logically.

There are also areas of science that are still basically stuck in the 19th century. They involve close observation and classification and don't have much to say about how nature actually works. Chemistry, for example, can be carried on in that narrow-focus way -- which may be why Monsanto is such a menace. I would bet that Monsanto is just full of Republican scientists.

 

tsnew

(12 posts)
27. thomas massie
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:18 AM
Aug 2013

Thomas massie (R-KY) is an engineer who went to MIT. I remember him bc he was on a couple episodes of "junkyard wars" back in the day when TLC still had educational shows.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. The Republican mind does not allow for concrete or abstract thought.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:42 PM
Aug 2013

Only Hate and Fear are the lords and rulers of the GOP brain. Most still live in 2-D.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
33. I do not buy it
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:47 PM
Aug 2013

In my experience, there are more Rs than Ds. But, my work environment has mostly been corporate. So, people are voting for their best interest in propping up the corporations.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
34. One problem with the figure
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:14 PM
Aug 2013

is that I think it's based on an unscientific survey. Which would be sort of ironic.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
35. 'Scientist' is a broad term.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 03:16 PM
Aug 2013

One can get a science degree of some sort from a christian university....but is it really science?

indepat

(20,899 posts)
38. Hopefully that 6% are not among the climate-change and/or round-earth deniers. And
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 07:23 PM
Aug 2013

having much more than a minimal education and presumed more than a modicum of common sense, how could their politics be so fucked-up?

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
43. any career minded
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 04:46 AM
Aug 2013

Person isn't going to go public with their beliefs I'd they differ from the mainstream, epecially in a profession where your success can be based on peer review, and to some extent reputation. Ones politican beliefs isn't dependant on intelligence.

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