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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 09:35 AM Aug 2013

Let’s Talk about a Real Healthcare System (And, No, I Don't Mean "Obamacare")

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/08/13-3


Let’s talk about healthcare. I don’t mean debating the Affordable Care Act. I mean healthcare, as in: If everyone needs healthcare, guarantee that everybody gets it.

I know, when it comes to healthcare, it’s easy to get into a debate for or against Obamacare. But we nurses see the world through a different lens: our patients.

Good healthcare is a fundamental resource that keeps America’s big engine running. Every day, as we do our best to care for our patients, nurses see people with chronic disease like asthma or diabetes who can’t afford insurance costs or medication. Maybe they’re absent from work, tired, and distracted from trying to manage their health on a shoestring. They run the risk of hospitalization. They struggle for a distant unreachable shore hoping something will help. They can’t get ahead because their health keeps dragging them down.

And yet the answer isn’t on the horizon, the answer is in our pockets, in our hands. It’s our taxes. We pay them and we ought to benefit from them.
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Let’s Talk about a Real Healthcare System (And, No, I Don't Mean "Obamacare") (Original Post) xchrom Aug 2013 OP
K&R.... daleanime Aug 2013 #1
Real healthcare, like the rest of the civilized world. Not Obama's "I got 95% what I wanted". chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #2
+1000 forestpath Aug 2013 #4
K & R historylovr Aug 2013 #3
If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ... Scuba Aug 2013 #5
+10000 G_j Aug 2013 #8
+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #15
I don’t mean debating the Affordable Care Act. Kolesar Aug 2013 #6
Having had recent experience in the health care system, namely Texas Plus, there is a huge failure Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #7
our health care is a joke in this country LittleGirl Aug 2013 #14
Good quality healthcare benefits society and productivity Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #9
the only way to fix it is to put enough people in office to pass something better. dionysus Aug 2013 #10
And the only way to do that is to convince men with guns to stop protecting "elected" valerief Aug 2013 #13
Yes, eliminate the cost of insurance Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #11
I agree, insurance companies are the problem. indie9197 Aug 2013 #16
Me , I love the argument of bureaucrats might run health care... Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #17
Silly, taxes are for WAR so rich people can get richer, which is the most important thing in the valerief Aug 2013 #12
Rec'd. Corruption Inc Aug 2013 #18
du rec cool nt limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #19
It's perfectly obvious. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #20
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
5. If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ...
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 10:21 AM
Aug 2013

... just what is it the defense budget is defending?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
7. Having had recent experience in the health care system, namely Texas Plus, there is a huge failure
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:09 AM
Aug 2013

In coordination of care. My friend fell while visiting in France, once she arrived in Dr office in France she left two hours later after x-rays, cast, cruches, order for wheel chair and visit with orthopedic.

She returned to the states, had to personally arrange for wheel chair rental and Dr appointment the following day with her primary care. It has been almost two weeks getting a referral to see an orthopedic, still waiting on delivery of wheel chair and still no home health care. When someone tells you how healthcare in Canada, UK and France has long waiting lines tell them they are mistaken, the lines are right here in the US.

LittleGirl

(8,280 posts)
14. our health care is a joke in this country
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:39 PM
Aug 2013

I have an auto-immune disease and from crowd sourcing, I'm learning all kinds of information about this disease. It should come from the doctors, not fellow patients. Most of the complaints are that the doctors in this country don't treat us properly. I've lived abroad and experienced socialized medicine. Our system is fucked up.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
9. Good quality healthcare benefits society and productivity
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:20 AM
Aug 2013

Republicans and their corporation friends feast off the sick.

Single payer system is the best way

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
11. Yes, eliminate the cost of insurance
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:32 PM
Aug 2013

and spend the money as taxes for health care, add some from the MIC and viola....Universal Health Care, and take it to the best in the world. Become somewhere to be jealous of.

indie9197

(509 posts)
16. I agree, insurance companies are the problem.
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:40 PM
Aug 2013

They exist to maximize their profits and their profits come directly out of the pockets of people who are basically forced to pay them "protection money". It is apparent that they cannot coexist with affordable health care.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
17. Me , I love the argument of bureaucrats might run health care...
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 02:52 PM
Aug 2013

...instead of doctors.
The bureaucrats run health care now; just corporate ones instead of governmental ones. Yeah the ones who get to pick their salaries are the ones in charge of what care you get and how much they feel like paying for you to live over the course of a lifetime.
So, the less money spent on you means the more in their pocket.

Instead of the bureaucrats on a fixed civil service salary.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
12. Silly, taxes are for WAR so rich people can get richer, which is the most important thing in the
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 12:36 PM
Aug 2013

world.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
20. It's perfectly obvious.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 07:40 AM
Aug 2013

As long as the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry and the health care services industry have their hands in the cookie jar we will not see an improvement.

These entities take their excess profits and purchase influence from "our" representatives.

Correcting this problem looks nearly impossible.

But we could end the problem by mandating publicly financed elections.

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