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boston bean

(36,217 posts)
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 06:17 PM Aug 2013

Why men kill their families on Sundays in August

A study of British “family annihilators” reveals some macabre data.

In what must be one of the darkest research projects we’ve covered, a British team has studied 32 years’ worth of “family annihilator” cases, where one member of a family murders multiple others. Some patterns emerge from the 71 cases they found.

For one, the killers were overwhelmingly male: 59 of the subjects. Of those, more than half were in their thirties. About 20 percent of the killing happened in August, and almost half happened on weekends, mostly on Sundays.

Why? The researchers write that many of the cases are based on perceptions of masculinity and power being challenged. The reason so many cases happen on weekends and in August, they argue, is that an estranged parent (again, usually the father) will have access to the children during the summer months and weekends–but by the end of that time, he may have to return them to the mother, which would explain the killings happening in August and on Sundays. (The data bears this out: the most common motive behind the killings, the researchers found, was a family breaking up, which included issues like access to children. That category accounted for two-thirds of stated motives.)

The team also breaks down some assumptions people might make about the killers, such as that they were always frustrated men with a history of mental illness. In fact, 71 percent of the killers were employed, and many were in successful careers. (Although many also weren’t; the researchers say the second most common reason given for the murders was a financial strait.)


http://www.salon.com/2013/08/14/why_men_kill_their_families_on_sundays_in_august_newscred/
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Why men kill their families on Sundays in August (Original Post) boston bean Aug 2013 OP
Don't stand between a guy and the tv when the game's on NightWatcher Aug 2013 #1
Which game? On Sundays in August, you don't find much. n/t hughee99 Aug 2013 #2
Football starts and baseball races for the post season NightWatcher Aug 2013 #5
Refers to the UK dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #10
Makes more sense. hughee99 Aug 2013 #11
I was in jail once on a Sunday Nevernose Aug 2013 #13
yeah, the end of summer with dad thing make sense arely staircase Aug 2013 #3
Football season starts in August. bravenak Aug 2013 #4
^^^^^Wife Of The Year right here ^^^^^ NightWatcher Aug 2013 #6
Gotta keep the peace. bravenak Aug 2013 #7
just as I watch So You Think You Can Dance for my Mrs NightWatcher Aug 2013 #9
Why bother pretending to like something you do not? Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #14
I like him. bravenak Aug 2013 #15
Would he be hurt if you said you didn't enjoy watching? Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #16
Who cares? cyberswede Aug 2013 #18
Taking other peoples' moral inventory over ridiculous random stuff is a time-honored DU practice. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #22
He just likes to be near me. bravenak Aug 2013 #20
She didn't say she pretends to like it, she says she pretends to watch. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #21
Your post creeped me out a little. lapislzi Aug 2013 #30
I'm really sorry. bravenak Aug 2013 #31
Going to church in 100 degrees lame54 Aug 2013 #8
Some men perfer... SummerSnow Aug 2013 #12
I was once a telephone operator (for about a minute). Sundays were known as crazy days. nolabear Aug 2013 #17
That's when you need a real pro on the job... pinboy3niner Aug 2013 #23
"Is this the party to whom I am speaking?" nolabear Aug 2013 #26
I worked 911 on Sunday's Corgigal Aug 2013 #24
My sister's a 911 operator. You're right about that! nolabear Aug 2013 #25
Won't shut up during Top Gear finale? flvegan Aug 2013 #19
It was a study of English family homicides. Loudly Aug 2013 #27
I wonder if the heat plays a role BainsBane Aug 2013 #28
Or, Monday means going back to work and exacerbates the feeling of losing the family. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #29

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. Don't stand between a guy and the tv when the game's on
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 06:23 PM
Aug 2013

Either that or they really hated work and the start of a new week on Monday.

I heard once (could be true or not) that more heart attacks occur on Sunday for the same reason.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
10. Refers to the UK
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 07:08 PM
Aug 2013

where football season starts next Saturday using a conventional round ball. We also have Sunday matches.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
11. Makes more sense.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 08:22 PM
Aug 2013

No one here is intently watching the pre-season NFL games and even the MLB pennant races don't get that much attention until september. For some reason, I didn't think EPL football started until September, but I'll admit I'm not that up on it.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
13. I was in jail once on a Sunday
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 08:45 PM
Aug 2013

The Raiders were playing, although I don't remember who. Someone in the overly-packed holding cell threw his shoes at the TV until he broke it, and what looked to me like a full scale riot broke out. I'm not a hundred percent what happened after the violence started, because me and fifty of me newest friends were piled in the corner, alternately begging rival gang members and guards to please not beat the shit out of us.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
3. yeah, the end of summer with dad thing make sense
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 06:38 PM
Aug 2013

well, not sense, but an obvious time of stress and potential conflict.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
4. Football season starts in August.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 06:51 PM
Aug 2013

Just a guess.
I always forget to record that extra thirty minutes for my husband. Won't forget this year.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
9. just as I watch So You Think You Can Dance for my Mrs
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 07:03 PM
Aug 2013

and she tolerates a football game a week and two games during baseball season.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
16. Would he be hurt if you said you didn't enjoy watching?
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 09:58 PM
Aug 2013

Not quite sure why you would want to make him believe you like something when you actually do not.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
18. Who cares?
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 10:26 PM
Aug 2013

It's harmless, and might make someone feel good (and pretending to watch doesn't necessarily equal pretending to like it).

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. Taking other peoples' moral inventory over ridiculous random stuff is a time-honored DU practice.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:30 AM
Aug 2013

You're messin' with tradition, Jack!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
20. He just likes to be near me.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:34 AM
Aug 2013

He works a lot and can't be here all the time. He wants to cuddle. I can get up and leave if I want to, but whatevs, he watches my shows all the time. I don't have to like it to sit there and read a kindle book or video chat with my BFF.
Besides he watches project runway with me.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
21. She didn't say she pretends to like it, she says she pretends to watch.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:28 AM
Aug 2013

I do the same thing for my wife while she watches the crusty old British ladies on Masterpiece Theatre, and she jams her feet into the sore spot on my lower back. It's a good deal.

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
30. Your post creeped me out a little.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:10 AM
Aug 2013

My ex-husband used the flat of his hand as a memory aid.

I'm sure that's not what you meant, but the words still ring in my slapped ear: "you won't forget again, will you?"

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
12. Some men perfer...
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 08:25 PM
Aug 2013

the o,e take wifey on a boating trip kill. Ladies, if your hubby takes you out on a boating trip and brings an empty cooler...don't go.

nolabear

(41,930 posts)
17. I was once a telephone operator (for about a minute). Sundays were known as crazy days.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 10:20 PM
Aug 2013

The supervisors warned us that we'd get more drunk and angry calls on Sunday than any other day. People have been together all weekend, football games make people furious, there's a lot of accumulated liquor drinking and then there's a kind of maudlin sense that Sunday is supposed to be a day of rest, goddamn it and you're not LETTING ME REST!

And indeed it was. Criers, ragers, people who should have been calling 911 instead. It was a mess.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
24. I worked 911 on Sunday's
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 10:17 AM
Aug 2013

and Saturday nights, were know for domestics. On Sunday, it started in the afternoon, and on Saturdays it started when it got dark. Should have received hazard duty pay for those times.

nolabear

(41,930 posts)
25. My sister's a 911 operator. You're right about that!
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:41 AM
Aug 2013

It was my experience that it started in the afternoons on Sundays too. She hates big football Sundays.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
27. It was a study of English family homicides.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:54 AM
Aug 2013

Stabbing was the preferred method. Shooting was way down the list, presumably due to the relative lack of availability of firearms.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
28. I wonder if the heat plays a role
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:15 AM
Aug 2013

I believe crime in general goes up in the summer.

This point is interesting:

The team also breaks down some assumptions people might make about the killers, such as that they were always frustrated men with a history of mental illness. In fact, 71 percent of the killers were employed, and many were in successful careers. (Although many also weren’t; the researchers say the second most common reason given for the murders was a financial strait.)
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