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Time magazine designs covers for four markets.-Witness these stunning dichotomies: (Original Post) midnight Aug 2013 OP
Wow, even Time mag. is part of the Prapaganda/Disinformation team. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #1
You just now finding that out? RC Aug 2013 #28
I don't read it. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #29
Time Magazine has always been right wing. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #43
I'm not disputing this opinion, but just remembering in the run up to the Iraq invasion this midnight Aug 2013 #58
Just figuring that out? AlbertCat Aug 2013 #39
"Even" Time? Is part of the team? RevStPatrick Aug 2013 #44
Now we are in the 21st Century. Just sayin. Sivafae Aug 2013 #48
Actually, we are in... RevStPatrick Aug 2013 #57
Well, Americans are narcissists Warpy Aug 2013 #2
Is the content different too? bunnies Aug 2013 #3
Yes it is HangOnKids Aug 2013 #8
nope. bunnies Aug 2013 #9
Sorry but home is great too HangOnKids Aug 2013 #12
I'd much rather have access to the one everyone else gets. bunnies Aug 2013 #14
I was going to say I saw something about that a few years ago CBGLuthier Aug 2013 #4
We are the Lolipop Kids. BlueJazz Aug 2013 #5
That looks more like just two markets: America and the outside world. nt CJCRANE Aug 2013 #6
The story of two Worlds. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #7
Here's this week's example ... Scuba Aug 2013 #10
That's 2011, Scuba. enlightenment Aug 2013 #34
Yeah? What year is it anyway? Scuba Aug 2013 #41
The only reason I know enlightenment Aug 2013 #42
Scuba I'm right there with you.... midnight Aug 2013 #52
You almost made me feel young again donheld Aug 2013 #56
From 2013: "The Face of Buddhist Terror" CJCRANE Aug 2013 #49
Yes, there are still differences. enlightenment Aug 2013 #50
This: CrispyQ Aug 2013 #11
They've been doing this for years. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Aug 2013 #15
I was about to mention that... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #22
The News Media is complicit in molding Americans to suit the Corporate Agenda AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #32
sure makes it appear that Americans don't G_j Aug 2013 #16
The global edition looks like a magazine I'd want to collect CJCRANE Aug 2013 #17
I didn't know that Time magazine was still being published. Jenoch Aug 2013 #18
They're not stupid, but they think WE are... Hekate Aug 2013 #19
Why are Americans so stupid? SCVDem Aug 2013 #20
Americans are so stupid b/c we sold our information to the highest bidder and let them choose live love laugh Aug 2013 #21
I am not stupid. Speak for yourself. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #25
If this does not illustrate the fact that there's a war on Americans, I don't know what does. nt live love laugh Aug 2013 #23
That there's a difference is one thing; the sheer inanity of the American ones is another. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #24
How many of the US Time mags are they actually selling? leftstreet Aug 2013 #26
You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! Demeter Aug 2013 #27
It is not so much we can't handle the truth, but that they are afraid that we can. RC Aug 2013 #30
(THEY can't handle the truth~!) Demeter Aug 2013 #37
SHAME on time magazine. spanone Aug 2013 #31
And this shows the bubble that Americans live in AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #33
Article is 2 years old, all covers shown are from 2011. Fla Dem Aug 2013 #35
Wow.....I knew that publications varied their reporting and placement Swede Atlanta Aug 2013 #36
It's like the auto makers.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #38
We live in the "short bus" country mindwalker_i Aug 2013 #40
TIME understands its demo Link Speed Aug 2013 #45
It's particularly important to keep the American people distracted an misinformed. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #46
don't know about you, but onethatcares Aug 2013 #47
Before the internet, if you lived in the ass-end of the world, and wanted news, you had to do MADem Aug 2013 #51
Interesting gopiscrap Aug 2013 #53
I remember back when Time named Maher Arar person of year for Canada and Bush for U.S. suffragette Aug 2013 #54
interesting. us get covers that reflect our individuality and self interest Liberal_in_LA Aug 2013 #55
 

RC

(25,592 posts)
28. You just now finding that out?
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:27 PM
Aug 2013

I used to subscribe to them. I dropped them 10 years ago or so because of the BS they passed off as "news". I didn't want to read their slanted news and propaganda. They were pushing Right-wing views even then.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
29. I don't read it.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:32 PM
Aug 2013

It doesn't surprise me. They are pretty mainstream. Heck, after NPR went pro-war in the early 2000s I gave up on most US media. Amy Goodman, Local Indy radio station, and foreign news sources is about it . I still glance at main stream stuff, but only to educate myself on the propaganda being fed to the general population.

 

East Coast Pirate

(775 posts)
43. Time Magazine has always been right wing.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:01 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0403.html

"We tell the truth as we see it," Mr. Luce once explained when his magazines took sides on controversies. And he was accustomed to urge his editors to make a judgment. He believed that objectivity was impossible. "Show me a man who claims he is objective," he told an interviewer, "and I'll show you a man with illusions."

To a remarkable extent during the peak of his total involvement with his magazines--Time, Fortune, Life and Sports Illustrated--the judgments and opinions that were printed reflected the focus of Mr. Luce's own views--and these encompassed virtually every facet of human endeavor.

He was a stanch Republican, a defender of big business and free enterprise, a foe of big labor, a steadfast supporter of Chiang Kai-shek, an advocate of aggressive opposition to world Communism. He was also an Anglophile, but he believed that "the 20th century must be to a significant degree the American century."

midnight

(26,624 posts)
58. I'm not disputing this opinion, but just remembering in the run up to the Iraq invasion this
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 03:23 PM
Aug 2013

magazine wrote a piece saying the amount of money and life was not doable... But this was so long ago....

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
39. Just figuring that out?
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:55 PM
Aug 2013

I stopped getting TIME some time in the '90's I think.... when the cover was SUPERMAN IS 50!

That...with the whole world of news to choose from, is the cover story? And I think some Superman thing was coming on TV or in theatres or something, so it was also a huge advertisement for Time/Warner.

Meh.... good riddance.

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
44. "Even" Time? Is part of the team?
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:04 PM
Aug 2013

What, are you kidding?
Time practically invented the team.

Time founder Henry "Luce envisaged that the United States would achieve world hegemony, and in 1941 he declared the 20th century would be the 'American Century.'"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Luce

Warpy

(111,137 posts)
2. Well, Americans are narcissists
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:10 PM
Aug 2013

who think it's their right to enjoy life without thinking of what their brethren overseas are going through. Sadly, the magazine editors are partly right about that.

It's the same reason US televised news has gone to tabloid/entertainment pap with no news of what is actually going on with 98% of the American people or what issues are affecting them and little news of what's going on overseas beyond a warning for graphic footage that isn't.

It's all about sales/ratings.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
14. I'd much rather have access to the one everyone else gets.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:43 PM
Aug 2013

Looks like something I'd actually buy vs what they sell here now. It says a lot about the country that Time needs to dumb it down in order to sell it here. They should at least give us the option.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
4. I was going to say I saw something about that a few years ago
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:16 PM
Aug 2013

but this is the same thing I saw a few years ago. I would like to see some more recent examples to see if the trend continues. I imagine it does.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
34. That's 2011, Scuba.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:40 PM
Aug 2013

It appears that while there still are differences, there are more similarities - and more of an actual focus on location specific news.

http://search.time.com/results.html?N=46&Ns=p_date_range|1

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
42. The only reason I know
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:00 PM
Aug 2013

is because I keep checking . . . CRS is my new monogram, I'm afraid!

It is fascinating - the covers, not the CRS - and really makes you think about how news is presented.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
49. From 2013: "The Face of Buddhist Terror"
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 07:35 PM
Aug 2013

and "Why Gitmo will never close" were deemed inappropriate for the American audience.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
50. Yes, there are still differences.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 07:45 PM
Aug 2013

I believe I said that.

I'm not trying to suggest that Time is reformed - simply that based on more current issues, there seems to be some effort at consistency across regions.

CrispyQ

(36,421 posts)
11. This:
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:38 PM
Aug 2013
Viewing these covers, a question must be asked: do these moments of marketing (through a choice in covers) reveal more about Americans, or about the state of American journalism?

I fear the answer.

Response to midnight (Original post)

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
22. I was about to mention that...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:14 PM
Aug 2013

I was absolutely shocked to see the difference between the CNN networks...If people even had a CLUE on how many light years ahead it is of the domestic channel, there would be an FCC investigation on why the domestic one is so shitty, and why the International isn't offered through cable providers...

One day we also need a discussion on how much better the food is abroad, too (from the same company)

G_j

(40,366 posts)
16. sure makes it appear that Americans don't
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:47 PM
Aug 2013

care about, or want to know about the rest of the planet.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
17. The global edition looks like a magazine I'd want to collect
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:58 PM
Aug 2013

showing history in the making.

The American edition looks like pap.

Hekate

(90,551 posts)
19. They're not stupid, but they think WE are...
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:04 PM
Aug 2013

I quit TIME in disgust for several years, but missed it. My latest subscription is about to expire... and I'm going to let it.

If it's any kind of intellectual nourishment you want, your brain may die of anorexia from reading TIME these days.

live love laugh

(13,077 posts)
21. Americans are so stupid b/c we sold our information to the highest bidder and let them choose
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:13 PM
Aug 2013

what they want to tell us.

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
26. How many of the US Time mags are they actually selling?
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:19 PM
Aug 2013

I mean, I really don't know. Does anyone other than a Doc's office buy these things?

With such huge parent megacorps controlling the media they can use magazines and tv programs as propaganda wings without needing to consider sales.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
30. It is not so much we can't handle the truth, but that they are afraid that we can.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:33 PM
Aug 2013

That would not be good for them.

Fla Dem

(23,585 posts)
35. Article is 2 years old, all covers shown are from 2011.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:42 PM
Aug 2013

Not saying this is not still going on, just that the information is a tad dated. The author also notes that the topics shown on the international covers are included in the US versions. I would guess some of the more dynamic marketing technique to the international market is because most of their sales there are from newstands, while the US market is more subscription based with less need for a dynamic cover.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
36. Wow.....I knew that publications varied their reporting and placement
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:45 PM
Aug 2013

based on the target market..you see that if you look at CNN US version versus one of their other versions but....

generally the content is comparable. Here it appears the entire focus is totally different.

In each instance where the international versions appear to be taking on an important issue such as the violence in Egypt, Germany's position in the global economy, etc. they offer applesauce to the American audience.

The question I have is....is this because they know the American audience is not smart enough to read and understand articles on important and serious issues or is it because they are part of the white-washing conspiracy in American media today?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
38. It's like the auto makers....
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:52 PM
Aug 2013

The Ford "Ka" isn't even available in the US and this UK commercial would cause total outrage here.

(Even though it's fake)



BTW: the 1.3 Duratorq version gets 3.7 litres per 100 kilometres which is 76 MPG on the freeway.
 

Link Speed

(650 posts)
45. TIME understands its demo
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:08 PM
Aug 2013

dumbass Americans.

The vast majority of the US does not give a flying fick about Egypt (or the rest of the world, for that matter - except maybe for the Windsor spawn).

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
46. It's particularly important to keep the American people distracted an misinformed.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:32 PM
Aug 2013

The US government has been providing the physical force to hold the global capitalist system in place. Actual information could cause democracy to happen in the US. People might decide they don't like the role their government has been playing, and could try to change it.

onethatcares

(16,161 posts)
47. don't know about you, but
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 06:51 PM
Aug 2013

I'm really, really interested in the way household chores are divided in married households

MADem

(135,425 posts)
51. Before the internet, if you lived in the ass-end of the world, and wanted news, you had to do
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 08:13 PM
Aug 2013

several things: first, buy Newsweek and Time every week; get to the international news shop early, develop a relationship with the owner so he will save stuff for you; second, buy the International Herald Tribune daily; third, buy a local paper (if you're lousy at the lingo, buy the English language version), and last but not least, listen to the BBC world service either over the air or via shortwave. If you had tv, you could tune in the television news as well, but that was often hit or miss.

The Newsweek (RIP) and TIME covers were always very different in other parts of the world; the coverage was, too.

The bottom line isn't especially nefarious--TIME, in USA, competes with PEOPLE and US and gossip-magazines; in other parts of the world, it competes with policy and political magazines in both English and the Native Language of the Locale and is geared towards an audience that reads and writes quite fluently in English--that's usually a small percentage of the total population in many countries (even though some might have "conversational" skills). The fact that it has pictures makes it much nicer for the English As A Second Language reader. Also, "Mommy" type stories don't sell well in either Asia or the Middle East, not in a magazine that is popular in business venues.

A picture of Qaddafi on a US edition in a supermarket isn't going to push someone trying to choose between that publication and another, say PEOPLE, touting Suri Cruise. However, that "family oriented" or "health" story might do the trick.

Different markets, different customer bases, different approaches.

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