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MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 04:37 PM Aug 2013

Obama administration sides with Republicans in defending legislative prayers

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/08/16/everything-you-need-to-know-about-town-of-greece-v-galloway-the-supreme-court-case-about-government-prayer/

Summary: Town has only Christian prayers for years, gets called out on it, court of appeals rules it's not constitutional. Conservative Supreme Court decides to take case, 32 Republican Senators and 84 Republican House members file briefs defending the practice. Only 2 Democrats, one senator and one house member, join them, and, oh yeah, the Obama administration.

WTF? ANY prayer is unconstitutional and harmful, much less sectarian prayer, carried out by government bodies, what the hell is the Obama administration thinking?

Here is the Obama defense, joining all those fun conservatives. Disgusting:

http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/publications/supreme_court_preview/briefs-v2/12-696_pet_amcu_usa.authcheckdam.pdf

With friends like these....
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Obama administration sides with Republicans in defending legislative prayers (Original Post) MellowDem Aug 2013 OP
Constitutional Scholar FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #1
Republican wannabe President Obama sides with republicans or takes up republican position is Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #2
K&R MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #3
I could of sworn there was a (D) by his name. mick063 Aug 2013 #4
IT'S ONLY A TWO MINU...TERM PRAYER!!!!11111 n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #5
he is obviously a paulite/liberarian/tea party promoter... :-) nt msongs Aug 2013 #6
Since opening sessions with a prayer brer cat Aug 2013 #7
Slavery goes back farther than that... Your point? MellowDem Aug 2013 #8
I'm not sure if I would compare prayer to slavery Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #9
I didn't... MellowDem Aug 2013 #10
Well, if it's been the case since the 18th century NuclearDem Aug 2013 #11
The real question LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #12
what part of go into your closet and pray to your father in secret.. frylock Aug 2013 #13
Is that in the 1st amendment? pintobean Aug 2013 #14
the fuck are you talking about? frylock Aug 2013 #16
I don't turn to the bible to answer constitutional questions. pintobean Aug 2013 #17
well you keep fighting that good fight.. frylock Aug 2013 #18
Amazing. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #15

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
2. Republican wannabe President Obama sides with republicans or takes up republican position is
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 04:47 PM
Aug 2013

not even news anymore.

brer cat

(24,524 posts)
7. Since opening sessions with a prayer
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:21 PM
Aug 2013

dates back to the Continental Congress in the 1770s, I can see where some would assume this is Obama's fault.

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
8. Slavery goes back farther than that... Your point?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:32 PM
Aug 2013

Is it Obama's fault for actively defending violations of religious freedom, no matter how far back they go, with theocratic-minded Repubs as his allies? Yup.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. I'm not sure if I would compare prayer to slavery
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:34 PM
Aug 2013

I consider myself an atheist, but I certainly wouldn't make that comparison.

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
10. I didn't...
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:39 PM
Aug 2013

The point is that something is not right just because it has been going on a long time.

Whether your an atheist or not has nothing to do with such terrible logic.

LostOne4Ever

(9,286 posts)
12. The real question
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:54 PM
Aug 2013

Is why the hell they even need an officially sanctioned prayer to begin a meeting with in the first place?

Want god's guidance? Why not just go and get together with other believers outside before the proceedings even begin. You can have any type of prayer you want, to whatever god you want, and it affects nobody but you.

INSTEAD we have to use the PUBLIC'S time to be seen in public being pious (do I need to quote what Yeshua thought of that?) instead of just getting down to business.

Its a divisive ritual that really does not need to be there in the first place and if the SCotUS were the least bit rational they would just ban it altogether.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
13. what part of go into your closet and pray to your father in secret..
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 07:46 PM
Aug 2013

do these assholes not understand?

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
14. Is that in the 1st amendment?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 07:56 PM
Aug 2013

Why, no, it's not.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
16. the fuck are you talking about?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 11:24 PM
Aug 2013

I make a comment about the hypocrisy of these idiots and you go first amendment? You should actually READ your damn bible ffs.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
17. I don't turn to the bible to answer constitutional questions.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 07:33 AM
Aug 2013

It seems like that would go against the establishment clause.

I don't own a bible and I see no need to read one.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
18. well you keep fighting that good fight..
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 02:13 PM
Aug 2013

and i'll continue to call out these hypocrites that DO turn to the bible to answer constitutional questions.

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