The GOP suicide pact continues:

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The reason I posted this was adding Telemundo and CNN Espanol. They know that without Hispanic-Americans and other minorities they are doomed as a party. Maybe they don't won't to expose them to their idiocy. However, just by excluding them no matter what the reason, it appears to be another snub.

RNC's NBC, CNN boycott will extend to Telemundo, CNN Espanol

In a highly anticipated move, the Republican National Committee voted unanimously on Friday to deny NBC and CNN the rights to host or sponsor a Republican primary debate unless those two networks cancel their respective Hillary Clinton film projects.

"CNN and NBC anchors will just have to watch on their competitors’ networks," RNC chairman Reince Priebus told the committee members in Boston.

While NBC and CNN's competitors stand to benefit from the RNC's decision, there's another potential winner who has gone unmentioned: Univision.

On Friday, RNC communications director Sean Spicer told POLITICO that the boycott would extend to NBC and CNN's Spanish-language channels: Telemundo and CNN Español.

"My understanding is that they both would be excluded," Spicer wrote in an email.
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/08/rncs-nbc-cnn-boycott-to-benefit-univision-170671.html

Ignoring The Law Of Holes has consequences.

[blkmusclmachine]

1. F_CK the GOPee.

That's all.

[B Calm]

2. Fascism

[Motown_Johnny]

3. Conservatives just don't comprehend backlash.

They get to the "Greeted as liberators" phase and stop dead.

This is so obviously going to be a disaster, it seems unbelievable that they would even consider this.

It would not surprise me if other main stream media networks decided to not allow this blackmail and decided to boycott the (R) primary debates in order to prevent themselves from being subject to the same extortion in the future. If that were to happen then the (R)s would be limited to FOX and FOX alone.

Not that this threat is real. I assume it is just an elaborate bluff to play to their base. It will also give them something to complain about, and to pretend to be the victims of, later in the process.

[Chemisse]

8. Yeah, I bet they quietly change their minds before the primaries

Or make it sound like the 2 networks conceded on some other point to gain back the right to air the primaries.

And 'conservatives don't comprehend backlash' is so true and they demonstrate it to us time and time again. That's what makes Repub watching such an entertaining pastime!

[truebluegreen]

18. OTOH maybe this is a convenient way to avoid

quite so many mind-blowing gaffes on national teevee--you know that's gonna happen given the quality of their likely candidates--all while pandering to their base and blaming the librul media.

[Motown_Johnny]

22. I don't doubt that is at the heart of the matter.

The desire to "Handle the moderators" is clearly an attempt to reduce the number of embarrassing moments which constantly damage their brand.

But it won't work, in fact I think it would backfire. There will be debates for the General election and anyone who didn't get properly warmed up in the primaries isn't going to be ready for the main event.

[truebluegreen]

23. If they have moderators like Druggie Limbaugh or O'Reilly

(current rumor) that certainly won't help...heck, it will just fan the flames.

With or without a long debate season, they just can't hide that level of crazy.

[Motown_Johnny]

25. Those moderators would ask questions that hurt them more

than any liberal could.


The answers they will need to give to get through the primaries would be even more extreme and hurt them even more in the long run if they simply pander to the extreme right.


Which is exactly why I am all for it.

[truebluegreen]

26. Me too!

The multiplier effect would be AWESOME!

[Shankapotomus]

4. Good

Let the GOP pout in their room forever.

I, for one, am tired of them being allowed to sit at the table like they are part of the family.

If we are so unfair and evil, why do they come on our shows like Rand Paul did on the Daily Show a few days ago?

[Berlum]

5. the GOP will look as mean and stupid as it actually is, when

Hilary announces that she has other plans.

[malaise]

6. My way or the highway

They're extending their authoritarian tendencies.

[hobbit709]

7. The Republican Law of Holes goes like this.

If you find yourself in a hole, you not only do not stop digging but you call in help and break out the power equipment.

[Chemisse]

9. ROFL and thanks for the explanation! n/t

[bunnies]

15. You sure?

I thought it went like this:

[hobbit709]

16. That's cranial rectumitis.

[bunnies]

17. lol.

Runs rampant in the GOP.

[Notafraidtoo]

10. I wonder

The 2012 debates went horrible for republicans, I wonder if they are simply trying to minimize the damage that the candidates will cause by simply expressing their backward ideas and this is all a distraction from the fact they don't want independents seeing their candidates and would rather PAC money ads to influence that voting block.

[Snake Plissken]

12. The want to minimize the exposure the the GOP's 2016 edition of the Jerry Springer Show

I don't care who you are, you have to admit the GOP debates are some of the best dysfunctional trainwreck entertainment on TV

[bluestate10]

33. The republican party is screwed. It can't close it's debates in the era of instant communication.

Some person of organization that can't be controlled will show up at that party's debate with a mic or camera. The information will get out and be played endlessly on the Web and television. The exposure will reinforce voters perception of the republican party and will prove to be the continuation of the march to end for that party.

[ThoughtCriminal]

14. +1

That was my reaction. In the primaries, they had to pander to the most extreme lunatics and it wasn't pretty at all. The GOP would do better to get through to the convention with as little notice as possible, throw up the usual Empty Suit, and hope to replay 2000.

[bluestate10]

34. Republicans will have to screen their rallies and control the crowd around their debates or rallies.

Modern communication technology will make that party's efforts futile. Images of the hateful signs and tee shirts the party's followers have will hit the Web and be seen in tens of millions of eyes. Hateful statements that party's supporters make will be captured by a cell phone and be posted on the Web for tens of millions to see and hear.

[Snake Plissken]

11. It makes perfect sense, why would the GOP want to have a debate on network that does fact checking?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/08/were-not-going-to-let-our-campaign-be-dictated-by-fact-checkers/261674/

The GOP knows they can not compete against the truth, all they can do is protect their base and scare them into turning out to vote

The Hilary documentary is a perfect excuse to keep their ignorant base from tuning into anything but their propaganda media outlets.

The bottomline is ...

They aren't fucked, they are so far beyond fucked, they couldn't catch a bus back to fucked

[another_liberal]

13. I love that closing line of yours!

Just splendid!

[bluestate10]

32. Republicans want to debate on channels that don't fact check, ot that lie like FOX.

But republicans WILL be fact checked and the fact checking will come before many more eyes and ears than they get on the closed channels that candidates debate before. The problem that republicans have is that their message is out of step with the majority of voters in the country and there is nothing that party can do about that situation. The republican party should and WILL vanish, or become an insignificant minority party.

party has it's southern strategy and other race based strategies to thank for it's coming demise. That party enabled and used a base of voters who one time were significant, but who are dying off and aren't being replaced in large numbers. The republican party is trapped in a echo chamber where the only voters that it can count on to vote it's way are demanding, red faced, that no one else get a say.

[AppetiteForApathy]

19. The GOP are preparing to leap from the high dive.

I can't wait until they realize America has drained the pool.

[bluestate10]

31. No. Those people see that the pool has been drained, but can't stop themselves from diving.

Their death wish is best for the nation. Once the republican party has vanished, the country can move to working on all cylinders.

[nyquil_man]

20. Would this boycott extend to the general election? nt

[mick063]

21. The extremists have such a firm grip.

I don't know if the Republicans can break out of the downward spiral within the next few decades.

Fortunately for the financial moguls, they are hermit crabs that have found an empty shell of another party to crawl in to. They will abandon ship, appease their new followers with gun control legislation, and attempt to disarm the politically obsolete zombie army they have created. At that time, they will become our unchallengeable overlords.

[KharmaTrain]

24. A Convenient Excuse...

...besides this being a publicity stunt to rev up the base and shake some much needed dollars from the gullible, this is a major diversion to focus attention away from the growing rifts within that corrupt and inept party. Rheinhold wants to avoid the embarassing clown car demolition derby in 2016 by limiting the number of "debates"...or more like opportunities for the rushpublicans to embarass themselves.

By bullying the networks Rheinold hopes to perpetuate the "librul media" meme. The truth is this is yet more hallow bullshit from this carnival barker. The RNC has never sponsored any debates. Be assured if the networks offer free national airtime...especially if they're aired on network affiliates in target primary states, the clowns will be there in full dress ready to answer questions from Steven Colbert...

[tsuki]

27. What is to stop NBC, CNN, Telemundo and CNN Espanol from

picking out the gaffes and playing them in a non-stop loop like they did with the Dean Scream?

[bluestate10]

30. That is going to happen. Unless republicans can have their debates in media tight cabins

in another universe, what that party's candidates say on stage will get out as video and words. To make matters worse, that party is looking at people like Hannity and Limbaugh as moderators. The type of debate crowd that Hannity and Limbaugh would draw to the debate hall will sink any eventual republican nominee by their conduct toward questions and answers during debates. Candidates on stage will play to the people in the audience.

[AngryOldDem]

28. Let 'em have their own echo chamber.

But then they really can't turn around and bitch, moan, and wonder why they can't ever seem to make inroads with mainstream America and Hispanics. Especially Hispanics.

[bluestate10]

29. A childish move on the part of the NRC. They don't like something, so they take their ball

and go home while sticking their fingers in the eyes of key voter groups. Republicans are trapped by their base, that base is mostly composed of racists and haters at this point, sane republicans have mostly decamped from that party.

[mountain grammy]

35. Agree, but it's very disturbing that they continue to win local elections and maintain power..

They've plenty of cash and an entire teevee network to keep them going. Hate sells.

[bluestate10]

36. This is a great OP. Thanks for posting it. nt

[Savannahmann]

37. Actually, it's not too dumb.

Several things you need to think about. First, very few of the core Republican voters will watch anything but Faux news. So excluding CNN doesn't hurt them with their base, if anything it helps them by punishing those "damned liberals" who don't keep up the drumbeat of the RW CT crowd. The Party looks like it is standing up and fighting against the Liberals, and the image of your party fighting for you, even if it is symbolic, works to keep your supporters strong. Look at the Democratic Party to see how many of us are disgusted about the NSA/Civil Rights issue for proof of that.

The NBC thing is irrelevant. Because with the other two broadcast networks, CBS, and ABC able to host, that will still make it available to the populace, while again giving the image that the GOP is fighting for the RW even if only symbolic.

Remember how many of us were happy that President Obama was going to take another look at the NSA, it looked for the weekend anyway, that he was finally going to consider Civil Rights. How many of us were happy? How many of us cheered when they slapped down Faux news? It was symbolic, it didn't accomplish anything but we felt like they were fighting for our beliefs.

So this isn't as dumb as you might think. The RW will play it off as the party is finally fighting back against the bias, FAUX news stands to win, ABC, and CBS stand to win, and it is entirely possible that NBC will drop the Clinton project that the Republicans find so objectionable. Let's be honest, if you can't interview anyone, your ability to report the news is severely diminished.

One of them will drop it, either CNN or NBC. If they do, then the GOP wins a symbolic battle against the left wing.

Think it through, not just how we see it, but how the RW and the rest of the people will see it.

[Are_grits_groceries]

38. I was trying to highlight the exclusion of the Spanish-speaking networks.

That is beyond dumb.
Maybe they don't want them to see their idiocy. Just doing that is offensive.

[Savannahmann]

39. Oh no, they leave Univision in.

Univision is the biggest, and has the widest viewership. Also Univision ran an expose on Fast and Furious, which the RW CT gang loves.

Think it through my friend. Remember the history, and where these names came up before. Because here be the secret, the RW is figuring out how to manipulate the message better. By going with Univision, they open the door to the CT gang on the Spanish Language side, and if they get smart, read the polling, and come out in favor of shutting down the NSA spying, and worse they get there FIRST, we're stuck out in the right, while they rush left, with claims of vast conspiracies on our side.

WE Democrats won't believe most of them, some perhaps, but not a vast majority. The question is will the majority of the voters? Do you really want to run on the platform of Pro NSA spying against the Republicans if they are running against it?