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kpete

(71,965 posts)
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:11 AM Aug 2013

Reagan Was An FBI Informer (reporting other actors whom he suspected of subversive activities)

Rosenfeld's book, Subversives: The FBI's War on Student Radicals and Reagan's Rise to Power, is now out in paperback. It details how the FBI employed fake reporters to plant ideas and shape public opinion about the student movement; how they planted stories with real reporters; and how they even managed — with the help of then-Gov. Ronald Reagan — to get the UC Berkeley's President Clark Kerr fired.

To research the book, Rosenfeld pored over 300,000 pages of records obtained over 30 years from five lengthy Freedom of Information Act lawsuits against the FBI.

The records "show that during the Cold War, the FBI sought to change the course of history by secretly interceding in events, by manipulating public opinion and taking sides in partisan politics," Rosenfeld says.
http://www.npr.org/2013/08/16/212381996/student-subversives-and-the-fbis-dirty-tricks


For me, one of the gems of that report was learning that Reagan was an FBI informer:

Starting in Hollywood in the 1940s, Ronald Reagan developed a special relationship with the FBI. He became an FBI informer, reporting other actors whom he suspected of subversive activities, and later when he became president of the Screen Actors Guild, the FBI had wide access to the Guild's information. At one point, the Guild turned over information on 54 actors it was investigating as possible subversives.
http://m.npr.org/news/Arts+%26+Life/159373688
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Reagan Was An FBI Informer (reporting other actors whom he suspected of subversive activities) (Original Post) kpete Aug 2013 OP
But he was informing on "liberals", so, in the eyes of the psychos, zbdent Aug 2013 #1
An important disticntion, reporting on political enemies when the left was literally criminalized. Coyotl Aug 2013 #59
His legacy is carried out by those who share his ideology to this day. We see it on DU. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #2
Remember his saying Iliyah Aug 2013 #12
"Trust, but verify" Cronus Protagonist Aug 2013 #15
"Don't trust in the first place," fits republican administrations. pangaia Aug 2013 #24
Well, he failed as an actor, so I guess this was the only way he could make a fortune, by turning sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #37
+! tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #42
The WOD wasn't started under him, but he did kick it into high gear. eShirl Aug 2013 #47
the beginning of the beginning? tomp Aug 2013 #53
Excellent point. He was an evil bastard. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #61
"The Democratic Party left me" zbdent Aug 2013 #62
It has been a long time ago but I remember Sir Ronnie at asjr Aug 2013 #3
Your memory must be better than mine. hughee99 Aug 2013 #25
Correct. HUAC was going through my mind and I asjr Aug 2013 #33
Off point a bit, but I wonder if Reagan turning into an FBI rat was the straw that no_hypocrisy Aug 2013 #4
I could see that as a major possibility.... hlthe2b Aug 2013 #7
edit xmas74 Aug 2013 #30
All gods have feet of clay. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #5
Why am I not surprised by this revelation? Itchinjim Aug 2013 #6
K and R - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #8
I heard this on NPR Friday. GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2013 #9
"employed fake reporters" -- Google Operation Mockingbird AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #10
Thank you for that suggestion. deurbano Aug 2013 #20
Don't ya'know that "Liberals" "Progressives" Iliyah Aug 2013 #11
Saint Ronnie was dropping a dime on his union brothers Major Nikon Aug 2013 #13
Was a Union leader/ Pres of Screen Actors Guild when he did that. Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #32
... while also a producer for the network (NBC? CBS?), a violation of SAG rules. eppur_se_muova Aug 2013 #38
Wow. What a snake, actually...he was dirt. Snakes are innocent. tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #43
No talent actor, secondvariety Aug 2013 #14
Like Whitey Bulger, Pruneface enjoyed special protection through, or for, his Mob ties. Octafish Aug 2013 #16
Thanks, was going to rec that book if no one else did ! nt eppur_se_muova Aug 2013 #36
Hoover spied on everyone, including Ronnie's LuckyLib Aug 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author LuckyLib Aug 2013 #18
Reagan snitch! Reagan snitch! NuclearDem Aug 2013 #19
Figures ... nt TBF Aug 2013 #21
He was also lousy in bed... KansDem Aug 2013 #22
He was right... Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #34
psst Ronnie: they were faking it you oaf eShirl Aug 2013 #48
I wonder how many lives that scumbag destroyed? NealK Aug 2013 #23
f'ing stasi bastard. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #26
Lest anyone think he wasn't a creep pre-Governorship. DirkGently Aug 2013 #27
As SAG President, Ronnie was FBI Confidential Informant "T-10" leveymg Aug 2013 #28
Read the book "Subversives" by Seth Rosenfeld. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #29
Looks like a good read. progressoid Aug 2013 #35
There was nothing admirable about that scumbag, LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #31
Read Rachel Maddow's "Drift" for interesting background on RR ... eppur_se_muova Aug 2013 #39
If figures.. sneaky little informant. I can imagine what actors Cha Aug 2013 #40
k&r Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #41
I Thought We Already Knew That Reagan Had A Hand In Actors Being Black Listed In Hollywood DallasNE Aug 2013 #44
Yep, I've known about this for many years theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #49
He also had a hatred of unions long before he became President theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #63
K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #45
I actually kept The New Republic magazine which exposed that to the 'masses' PCIntern Aug 2013 #46
In 2008, I was disappointed to see Reagan on the 10 best U.S. merrily Aug 2013 #50
Reagan, FBI stooge. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #51
Quite Fitting - Americas Chief Soap Salesman - Selling His Colleagues Short cantbeserious Aug 2013 #52
Saint Ronnie was bad to the core. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #54
"It" makes my skin crawl to this day. His inner rot manifested in what he did to our country. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #60
Thanks for the OP, kpete, but not really new news. Raygun was the Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #55
Shnoopy shniffer!!! darkangel218 Aug 2013 #56
Before Ronnie; greiner3 Aug 2013 #57
Competition for leading man roles was fierce. Ronny found a way alfredo Aug 2013 #58
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
59. An important disticntion, reporting on political enemies when the left was literally criminalized.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:07 AM
Aug 2013

The United States went through a period when your political affiliation could get you the death penalty. That should give some perspective on the extremity of the right and people like Ronald Reagan. They are political criminals in their own right due to the degree of intolerance they own and foster. Human beings have a right to their own political preference.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
2. His legacy is carried out by those who share his ideology to this day. We see it on DU.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:18 AM
Aug 2013

This is why those folks who make attack posts about liberal actors are so deeply offensive to anyone with knowledge of the history of that industry who is a liberal of any sort.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. Remember his saying
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 11:17 AM
Aug 2013

"The Democratic Party left me". Well apparently he left them for a more conservative paranoid stance. He also claimed that Medicare would be the death of America.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
37. Well, he failed as an actor, so I guess this was the only way he could make a fortune, by turning
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 07:03 PM
Aug 2013

in his fellow actors, who in many cases were far more successful than he. The lowest species of worm.

I remember reading a comment from his first wife, who was asked what she thought of her ex becoming POTUS. She said something like 'he was the most boring man to be around. Whenever we had company, he would play his old movies over and over, boring everyone in the room.'

Reagan was the beginning the beginning of the downfall of Democracy or even a semblance of it, in the US. He was used to start the infamous Drug War which began the destruction of Civil Rights and it has gone downhill ever since.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
53. the beginning of the beginning?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:16 AM
Aug 2013

sorry, but america's downhill slide goes back way before reagan, either in the 50's or the 80's. Although in both era's he was right there with the worst of the worst.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
62. "The Democratic Party left me"
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 01:21 PM
Aug 2013

yep, yet another case of something not ever being his or her won fault.

Kinda like evolution leaving behind a bunch of conservatives ...

Conservative to blacks - "You'll never see a black president".

Conservative to NASA - "You'll never get a man on the moon."

Conservative to the Wright brothers - "You'll never get it off the ground."

Conservative to Henry Ford - "Get a horse."

Conservatives to teachers - "Nobody can educate a negro."

Conservative to Lincoln - "You'll never get people to agree to end slavery."

Conservative to the Founding Fathers - "I'll laugh as you kick your feet in the air from the end of a rope!"

Conservatives to Columbus - "Have fun falling off the edge of the Earth."

Conservative to "Man" - "What are you doing out of the tree?"

Conservative to monkey - "What are you doing in that tree?"

Conservative to land animal - "What are you doing out of the ocean?"

Conservative to multicelled organism - "One's fine to me."

Conservative to God - "TURN OFF THAT DAMN LIGHT!"

asjr

(10,479 posts)
3. It has been a long time ago but I remember Sir Ronnie at
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:22 AM
Aug 2013

the Joe McCarthy hearings when he outed a number of actors and writers who presumably belonged to the communist party.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
25. Your memory must be better than mine.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 12:26 PM
Aug 2013

I don't recall Raygun testifying in the Army McCarthy hearings at all. I just remember he testified in the HUAC hearings.

no_hypocrisy

(46,037 posts)
4. Off point a bit, but I wonder if Reagan turning into an FBI rat was the straw that
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:22 AM
Aug 2013

broke the back of his marriage to Jane Wyman.

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
7. I could see that as a major possibility....
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 10:28 AM
Aug 2013

As far as I know, she never lost her own liberal roots.

xmas74

(29,671 posts)
30. edit
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 12:59 PM
Aug 2013

I always heard he did everything for Nancy but those dates just don't add up, do they?


What a POS.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
20. Thank you for that suggestion.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 11:58 AM
Aug 2013

I imagine those that tried to expose the operation (at the time) were dismissed as "conspiracy nuts"... and as "paranoid."

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
11. Don't ya'know that "Liberals" "Progressives"
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 11:13 AM
Aug 2013

will always be the enemy in the ideology of the true conservatives. Walt Disney was also working with the FBI as well.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
38. ... while also a producer for the network (NBC? CBS?), a violation of SAG rules.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 07:04 PM
Aug 2013

As a producer, Reagan sided with the producers/directors/networks against the actors when negotiating the royalties arrangements to air movies filmed in the days before TV. He gave the networks -- who paid his big salary -- a very sweet deal, which royally screwed over the actors in old films, like the Marx Brothers and Bob Hope (Hope was wealthy because he bought California real estate back when it was cheap, not because of movie royalties).

LuckyLib

(6,817 posts)
17. Hoover spied on everyone, including Ronnie's
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 11:40 AM
Aug 2013

Son Michael, who was running with some punk teen sons of the Jersey mafia. H told Ronnie to tell him to find some new friends.

Response to kpete (Original post)

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
22. He was also lousy in bed...
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 12:14 PM
Aug 2013
Virgin starlet claims Ronald Reagan was a 'show-off' in bed after seducing her on set of 1950s film in which he played her father

In politics he was known as the great communicator.

But when it came to matters of the heart Ronald Reagan was a rude, insensitive show-off, one of his former lovers has claimed.

The actress Piper Laurie said that when she slept with the former U.S. President he bragged to her afterwards about his staying power.

Yet when she complained she was unsatisfied he replied she should see a doctor - because he definitely knew how to make a woman happy.

--more--
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2061105/Piper-Laurie-claims-Ronald-Reagan-bed.html




Another Hollywood legend shattered!

eShirl

(18,480 posts)
48. psst Ronnie: they were faking it you oaf
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:57 AM
Aug 2013

and apparently better actors than you ever were
not that it was a high bar to achieve

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
29. Read the book "Subversives" by Seth Rosenfeld.
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 12:45 PM
Aug 2013

Reagan and Meese were much bigger pricks than we ever gave them credit for.

His SAG members were begging him for assistance in keeping them from appearing before the HUAC and McCarthy hearings, without knowing that he had already turned them in.

J. Edgar Hoover illegally assisted his election as California's Governor.

He was a member of the John Birch Society.

On and on. A great read.

http://www.amazon.com/Subversives-Student-Radicals-Reagans-Power/dp/1250033381/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1376757797&sr=1-1&keywords=subversives+the+fbi%27s+war+on+student+radicals

LuvNewcastle

(16,837 posts)
31. There was nothing admirable about that scumbag,
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 12:59 PM
Aug 2013

which of course guaranteed him a position in the GOP. It's a wonder that anyone in Hollywood even spoke to the motherfucker.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
39. Read Rachel Maddow's "Drift" for interesting background on RR ...
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 07:05 PM
Aug 2013

I thought I had forgotten how bad he was. Turns out there was worse stuff I didn't know about.

Cha

(296,875 posts)
40. If figures.. sneaky little informant. I can imagine what actors
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:27 AM
Aug 2013

think of him in Hollywood these days.

Not counting jon voight, stephen baldwin, john ratzenburger, gary sinese, clint eastwood, etc etc etc.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
44. I Thought We Already Knew That Reagan Had A Hand In Actors Being Black Listed In Hollywood
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:18 AM
Aug 2013

So the story here is only about the degree of involvement Reagan had with this.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
49. Yep, I've known about this for many years
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:23 AM
Aug 2013

But the digger you deep into the crypt of St. Ronnie, the more rotten the corpse. He was a real piece of work.

Some might find this piece interesting:

“We Must Keep the Labor Unions Clean”: “Friendly” HUAC Witnesses Ronald Reagan and Walt Disney Blame Hollywood Labor Conflicts on Communist Infiltration"

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6458

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
63. He also had a hatred of unions long before he became President
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:29 PM
Aug 2013

But boy did his inherent, cowardly vileness get a whitewashing, both then and still today.

PCIntern

(25,491 posts)
46. I actually kept The New Republic magazine which exposed that to the 'masses'
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 05:28 AM
Aug 2013

in the 80's. It was a very big deal.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
50. In 2008, I was disappointed to see Reagan on the 10 best U.S.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:37 AM
Aug 2013

Presidents in all U.S. history lists of both Obama and Hillary.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
60. "It" makes my skin crawl to this day. His inner rot manifested in what he did to our country. nt
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:33 AM
Aug 2013

:

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
55. Thanks for the OP, kpete, but not really new news. Raygun was the
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:39 AM
Aug 2013

most craven of opportunists, with saleable scruples and amoral ambition.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
57. Before Ronnie;
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:17 AM
Aug 2013

Was an FBI informer, he was a 'flaming liberal' himself.

He 'switched sides' after his divorce and subsequent marriage to the 'Dragon Lady' Nancy.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
58. Competition for leading man roles was fierce. Ronny found a way
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:43 AM
Aug 2013

to narrow the field of his competitors by ratting them out. He was also able to punish political opponents in SAG.

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