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kpete

(71,985 posts)
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:43 PM Aug 2013

The Almost Entirely Black Audience Of "The Butler" Had To Watch Film W-Armed Guards Facing Them



Racial profiling is exactly what Regal Cinemas is being accused of over their deployment of armed police and extra security steps at an 8:05 pm showing of The Butler. Thirty-five year-old Tiffany Flowers and her husband, 38 year-old Alan Hanson (update: the couple are not married), were shocked by what happened at the theater. Ms. Flowers tweets:

I’d like to take this time to express my utter disgust with@RegalMovies cinema in Silver Spring, MD. You all should stay away from here.
.@hanson_alan and I went to see #TheButler @RegalMovies last night and let me tell you what an unpleasant experience it was…
Tickets were double validated. First they get torn then upon entering the theater (10 FT. AWAY) we were asked for stubs again.@RegalMovies
Then as soon as we enter the theater we were greeted by an actual police officer who herded traffic in one direction. @RegalMovies
Once we get around the corner and start looking for seats we see yet another police office inside the theater facing patrons.@RegalMovies
This was our first (and final) trip @regalmovies but we were told that this is completely out of the ordinary. #TheButler
The almost entirely black audience of #TheButler was subjected to watching the film while armed guards faced the audience. Why?@RegalMovies
RT @HoneyNectar17: @Me @RegalMovies Why the police presence? Is it a rowdy theater with a lot of unruly pre-teens and teenagers? <– No!
@HoneyNectar17 @RegalMovies As a matter of fact it was the 8:05 show. There were mostly elders and people our age in the crowd.#TheButler
@Oprah I went out to support #TheButler last night and@RegalMovies thought it’d be cool to extend the onscreen discrimination to the crowd.


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http://www.mediaite.com/online/patrons-report-armed-police-at-silver-spring-maryland-screening-of-lee-daniels-the-butler/
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The Almost Entirely Black Audience Of "The Butler" Had To Watch Film W-Armed Guards Facing Them (Original Post) kpete Aug 2013 OP
regal theaters in Maryland d_r Aug 2013 #1
Yes, in Frederick, about 50 miles north of Silver Spring. elleng Aug 2013 #4
My brother, who lives there, refers to it as "Fredneck" tularetom Aug 2013 #31
Well, may well be 'Fredneck,' elleng Aug 2013 #34
Frederick and Silver Spring are totally different environments, though. kwassa Aug 2013 #37
Indeed, there is no comparison politically and socially, elleng Aug 2013 #39
. kwassa Aug 2013 #48
HOLY SHIT, in Silver Spring, MD??? elleng Aug 2013 #2
Saw it at the Avalon tonight. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #58
DID YOU??? elleng Aug 2013 #69
Yep. It was great. Not a very diverse crowd, but that was o.k. The audience laughed, cried, cheered. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #89
What the hell? ARMED guards? MADem Aug 2013 #3
The tweeter uses the term "actual police officer" Fumesucker Aug 2013 #8
Do they hire off duty cops as security in that town? I know they do in Boston... MADem Aug 2013 #84
No, it's in the county-owned shopping-plaza. (I live here.) Chan790 Aug 2013 #101
OMG - hope Scalia KT2000 Aug 2013 #5
That is disgusting. Shame on Regal Cinemas. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2013 #6
Double-checking ticket stubs happens at all big movies WolverineDG Aug 2013 #7
Really? I don't think I've ever seen it... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #11
I've seen double-checking as recently as the latest Star Trek movie WolverineDG Aug 2013 #15
maybe it's a geographical thing... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #82
I've been to gazillions of movies liberalhistorian Aug 2013 #29
I saw armed security temporary311 Aug 2013 #53
Well, I have nt WolverineDG Aug 2013 #80
been yo a 1000 movies trumad Aug 2013 #60
I've been to about that many WolverineDG Aug 2013 #81
The only time I ever saw it was for the initial screening of Batman Returns jmowreader Aug 2013 #96
No, it doesn't. Iggo Aug 2013 #83
I don't know what to say. I live in North Carolina and went yesterday mnhtnbb Aug 2013 #9
We warned everyone. theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #10
Thanks. Didn't know about this. elleng Aug 2013 #12
Go see it there, ellen. I went tonight and it was nice. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #59
I consider the Avalon to be 'my' movie theater elleng Aug 2013 #70
Oh, sorry about that. I think I'll start going to Avalon. It's out of the way, but I like the fact Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #90
Maybe we can meet up some time, eh? elleng Aug 2013 #92
I tried to tell my friends that they could park back there, but they didn't believe me. Oh, well. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #98
Yes, we'll keep in touch. ;-) elleng Aug 2013 #99
Just returned from the show, Liberal_Stalwart. elleng Aug 2013 #100
I can understand why, but despite all that has happened in the last few years, I do think we've Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #103
Happy that you feel this way. elleng Aug 2013 #104
Obama Says 'The Butler' Movie Made Him Tear Up. elleng Aug 2013 #105
Wow! I saw the film on Friday morning... I'm not sure any other big screen film has really told jimlup Aug 2013 #13
I saw the movie wiith an almost all-white audience in Oklahoma last night Z_I_Peevey Aug 2013 #14
Don't know about the ownership theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #16
WTF??? n/t malaise Aug 2013 #17
WTF? suffragette Aug 2013 #18
There will be those who don't get it. mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #19
You have got to be fucking kidding me. liberalhistorian Aug 2013 #20
I've seen them. Igel Aug 2013 #76
Huh? East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #21
Unbelievable. silverweb Aug 2013 #22
"Christian billionaire" Philip Anschutz owns a majority stake in the company starroute Aug 2013 #23
Actually according to that Wikipedia page he sold his controlling shares of Regal in 2006. Initech Aug 2013 #91
All I see is that he resigned as a director in 2006 starroute Aug 2013 #97
I'd like to see confirmation from another source first Retrograde Aug 2013 #24
Here's one: elleng Aug 2013 #36
It's not confirmation from another source. Igel Aug 2013 #77
Right. elleng Aug 2013 #79
Wow..it looks good! AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #25
Responding to a request for comment from the theater chain, East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #26
I've NEVER EVER EVER seen ANy security personnel at a Regal theater. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #35
I've never seen security in any theater. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #47
I've seen police officers at my local theater npk Aug 2013 #72
Welcome to entertainment in the "Colorblind America" of the 21st Century Police State. leveymg Aug 2013 #27
Regal politics indeed unionthug Aug 2013 #28
K/R Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #30
How did REAL cops get in the mix? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #32
GOOGLE Abraham Bolden Octafish Aug 2013 #33
Silver Spring is a very diverse suburb of DC kwassa Aug 2013 #38
Silver Spring is also the end of Georgia Ave Recursion Aug 2013 #40
and how is not diverse? kwassa Aug 2013 #41
When I lived on Georgia Ave a few years ago I was the only nonblack person for several blocks Recursion Aug 2013 #42
Where on Georgia? kwassa Aug 2013 #54
Irving & Georgia first, then farther north (Rock Creek Church IIRC) (nt) Recursion Aug 2013 #65
That entire area is almost all gentrified now starting-at & north of Columbia Heights/Mt Pleasant. Chan790 Aug 2013 #102
Not quite, elleng Aug 2013 #43
Georgia Ave crosses Eastern Ave into Downtown Silver Spring Recursion Aug 2013 #44
Right, at certain intersections, Georgia provides SS/DC boundary. elleng Aug 2013 #46
The boundary is Eastern Ave the whole way Recursion Aug 2013 #49
Georgia Ave is Rte 97: elleng Aug 2013 #51
Right Recursion Aug 2013 #52
Name of the place??? elleng Aug 2013 #56
Negril, I think? Recursion Aug 2013 #68
Thanks. Will look for it. elleng Aug 2013 #71
No!! Silver Spring is incredibly diverse!! You don't know what you're talking about. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #61
I know Silver Spring is diverse. Georgia Ave through DC isn't so much, or at least wasn't Recursion Aug 2013 #66
They are gentrifying very fast. VERY!! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #88
I'm surprised too, elleng Aug 2013 #45
Background: the crime problem in downtown Silver Spring. kwassa Aug 2013 #50
Quite right, elleng Aug 2013 #55
This may be true but Silver Spring is changing very rapidly and becoming more Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #63
FUCK ME!! I LIVE IN SILVER SPRING!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #57
A Guide To Consumer Brands Helping Bankroll Right-Wing Attack Ads Ian David Aug 2013 #62
thanks for link to the list olddots Aug 2013 #78
There is no way Bethany Rockafella Aug 2013 #64
The fact that they didn't all walk out is a good indication this story is BS npk Aug 2013 #74
Reminds me of how theaters treated people when showing "New Jack City" and "Do The Right Thing." n/t Ian David Aug 2013 #67
All the theaters around here have armed security madville Aug 2013 #73
Damn Yankee states Go Vols Aug 2013 #75
FML, I live right there, walking distance from this theater IronLionZion Aug 2013 #85
Thanks for the picture you draw, IronLionZion. elleng Aug 2013 #86
Sounds like Martin Bashir will cover this today: elleng Aug 2013 #87
I've been to both theaters. Regal Frederick and Regal Silver Spring Xyzse Aug 2013 #93
Absolutely sickening. JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #94
kick Liberal_in_LA Aug 2013 #95

d_r

(6,907 posts)
1. regal theaters in Maryland
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:55 PM
Aug 2013

that is where the young man with Down Syndrome was murdered by the security guards.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
31. My brother, who lives there, refers to it as "Fredneck"
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:45 PM
Aug 2013

Although IMO he would seem to fit in pretty well there. He's always bitching about all the "city people" DC commuters who have relocated there to take advantage of the relatively cheap housing market.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
34. Well, may well be 'Fredneck,'
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:51 PM
Aug 2013

but I have an apartment in Hagerstown! We've been fortunate to have removed old R congressman Roscoe Bartlett for D John Delaney!

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
37. Frederick and Silver Spring are totally different environments, though.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:01 PM
Aug 2013

the comparison won't work.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
39. Indeed, there is no comparison politically and socially,
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:07 PM
Aug 2013

but unfortunate police activities in both places recently.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
2. HOLY SHIT, in Silver Spring, MD???
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:56 PM
Aug 2013

Was thinking of seeing it in Chevy Chase, DC, today, and may do so. I expect regal will hear a thing or two about this!

kpete, cross-post this in Maryland, please?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
89. Yep. It was great. Not a very diverse crowd, but that was o.k. The audience laughed, cried, cheered.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:20 AM
Aug 2013

It was great!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. What the hell? ARMED guards?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:56 PM
Aug 2013

I went to see LINCOLN when it was the hot movie and attended a sold-out show. There was a shitload of security there, everyone's tickets were double checked, but I didn't see "armed guards."

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. The tweeter uses the term "actual police officer"
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:00 PM
Aug 2013

So yeah, they would be armed most likely.

I have no idea why the theater thought it needed sworn officers of the law to act as ushers.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
84. Do they hire off duty cops as security in that town? I know they do in Boston...
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 09:31 AM
Aug 2013

They'll wear the uni, too, sometimes, but get paid privately.

I just don't understand why they had to be lined up like it was a prison showing. Crowd control is one thing, weapons and standing there checking everyone out is something else.

Ham handed, as they say....at a minimum.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
101. No, it's in the county-owned shopping-plaza. (I live here.)
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:37 PM
Aug 2013

The security there is Montgomery County PD.

Unless I'm mistaken, that's the theater in the Downtown Silver Spring (To be clear, that's a formal name...the name of an outdoor mall/shopping-plaza surrounding City Place Mall.) complex at Fenton St. and Wayne? Ave (the confusion is because it's in the middle of a pedestrian area but all the streets continue across the complex even though they are closed to traffic. I never have any idea what street I'm on there.)...it's always had problems, it's where I got patted down for "suspicion of contraband candy". There is a constant police presence (foot-patrol and bike police) there but it's confined to the public streets along with a private security presence inside the mall and the theater usually.

They did the same thing during Stomp The Yard and claimed it was because they had "credible threats" of riots and gang violence. It was a load of crap then and now, I think they (Regal) are just uncomfortable with poor people and black people. Ironically, Silver Spring is one of the most-affluent black-majority cities in America.

KT2000

(20,576 posts)
5. OMG - hope Scalia
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:57 PM
Aug 2013

et al are aware of this "post racial society."
Hope this makes the national news.

WolverineDG

(22,298 posts)
7. Double-checking ticket stubs happens at all big movies
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:59 PM
Aug 2013

armed guards? not so much. Perhaps the theater had received threats from right wing wackos? If so, why not cancel the showings?

WolverineDG

(22,298 posts)
15. I've seen double-checking as recently as the latest Star Trek movie
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:26 PM
Aug 2013

and as far back as the early release of Independence Day.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
82. maybe it's a geographical thing...
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 08:24 AM
Aug 2013

I may have seen it for some movies that were constant sellouts, but those were movies with typically heavy teenage audiences...

liberalhistorian

(20,816 posts)
29. I've been to gazillions of movies
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:42 PM
Aug 2013

in a very wide variety of theaters and I've never once had a ticket double-checked or seen police/armed security. Not once.

temporary311

(955 posts)
53. I saw armed security
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:43 PM
Aug 2013

at the Regal IMAX theater in Ontario the day after the shooting in Colorado. Don't recall seeing any since, though.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
96. The only time I ever saw it was for the initial screening of Batman Returns
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 03:23 PM
Aug 2013

And the only reason they did that was overcrowding. It sold out, and people were trying to buy tickets for other movies so they could sneak into Batman.

I'm at a loss for words as to why they'd do this...if they were trying to prevent some sort of race riot, why the hell would they think one would break out at THIS film? Did anyone under the age of fifty even go?

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
9. I don't know what to say. I live in North Carolina and went yesterday
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:00 PM
Aug 2013

to a local theater in our town. Very well attended. Applause at the end.
No security presence at all.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
10. We warned everyone.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:27 PM
Aug 2013

When my partner and I posted this thread about women being searched at Regal Cinema.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3359860

Now black citizens are being subjected to their humiliation. Wake up, people.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
12. Thanks. Didn't know about this.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:18 PM
Aug 2013

Rarely attend movies, but will keep it in mind. Will probably see The Butler here:

http://www.theavalon.org/

'An independent movie theater in a beautifully restored historic building, operated by the nonprofit Avalon Theatre Project, Inc., The Avalon offers exciting and diverse programming that includes outstanding first-run commercial films, independent and foreign films, documentaries, film festivals, and special programs for families and seniors.'

The Chevy Chase, DC, community, resurrected the Avalon, so its a real community affair.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
70. I consider the Avalon to be 'my' movie theater
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:32 PM
Aug 2013

tho I no longer live in DC. Used to live about 15 minutes away, and now, more like 40.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
90. Oh, sorry about that. I think I'll start going to Avalon. It's out of the way, but I like the fact
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:21 AM
Aug 2013

that it's non-profit. People are friendly. Parking is crazy, but I've always liked that area.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
92. Maybe we can meet up some time, eh?
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:47 PM
Aug 2013

Parking in lot behind CVS! I suppose it was crowded with Butler viewers this weekend, but spaces are usually available. And there's Safeway's lot, too.

I and many of us were very happy when the community was able to 'rescue' the theater, and it continues to improve, as in, little coffee-shop there now!

I'd thought of looking for an apartment in the neighborhood as I like it, used to sit in the library for hours, and that particular Starbucks provided a haven for me in a time of need some years ago. However, I've found a 'cottage' to rent in Lusby, on Patuxent River, so won't do Chevy Chase apartment, will be in Silver Spring part time.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
98. I tried to tell my friends that they could park back there, but they didn't believe me. Oh, well.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:42 PM
Aug 2013

Definitely, we should meet up. That would be nice. I hope you're happy where you are. It's pretty expensive here. I'm still trying to look for a house; tired of renting, but it's nearly impossible on one income, even if it's a good one.

Keep in touch!!

elleng

(130,865 posts)
99. Yes, we'll keep in touch. ;-)
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:56 PM
Aug 2013

I'm happy in 3 places! (Actually not in the 3d yet, but visiting tomorrow.)

elleng

(130,865 posts)
100. Just returned from the show, Liberal_Stalwart.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:10 PM
Aug 2013

Am sad. Lived through his story (from a distance, of course, white NY liberal woman,) and don't know why, but am almost depressed.

Was a great movie, imo.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
103. I can understand why, but despite all that has happened in the last few years, I do think we've
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 08:59 PM
Aug 2013

come quite a long way in this country. I still believe that there's quite a long way to go, and I think that there are forces who want to take us back to a very dark place, but we won't go back there. There is a lot of good in the human spirit, and the good will outweigh the bad. I truly believe that.

Keep your head up.

It was a great movie!!

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
13. Wow! I saw the film on Friday morning... I'm not sure any other big screen film has really told
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:20 PM
Aug 2013

the civil rights story from this perspective. It was an inspirational film. Ironically our viewing was interupted by a bunch of very loud and rowdy white teenagers who came in at the very end after theater jumping. I mean they were kids so I forgive them and all - not the same situation nor the converse...

Racial profiling at that rather significant movie is not acceptable.

Z_I_Peevey

(2,783 posts)
14. I saw the movie wiith an almost all-white audience in Oklahoma last night
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:22 PM
Aug 2013

with no armed guards to be seen--just a regular night at the movies--with some scattered applause at the end.

What is wrong with this Regal theater group? Owned by some crazed right-winger?

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
19. There will be those who don't get it.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:08 PM
Aug 2013

Whenever it comes down to it some things change and some things stay the same.

liberalhistorian

(20,816 posts)
20. You have got to be fucking kidding me.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:27 PM
Aug 2013

I have never, ever, ever, ever, once, in my life, EVER attended ANY movie theater ANYWHERE that had anything remotely resembling police officers or armed security anywhere on the premises, least of all in the damn theaters themselves. And, at age 48, I've been to a LOT of movies at a LOT of different theaters in a wide variety of neighborhoods.

This is blatant racial profiling, at its worst. Nothing more, nothing less.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
76. I've seen them.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:36 AM
Aug 2013

They weren't movies I saw. Couldn't afford movies. But there's a theatre in Westwood, next to UCLA, that had a lot of big movies go through with really large lines. Usually rode my bike back and forth to school, sometimes walked, sometimes went home that way.

If they expected lots of crowds or the possibility of trouble they'd have security crawling all over the place.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
22. Unbelievable.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:32 PM
Aug 2013

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I saw this excellent movie yesterday, along with a very mixed audience, and can't even begin to imaging what Silver Spring police were thinking. How absolutely insulting to everyone present!

starroute

(12,977 posts)
97. All I see is that he resigned as a director in 2006
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 04:09 PM
Aug 2013

"So that he could focus on his other investments."

But there's nothing about him selling his shares, either in the various Wikipedia entries that mention Anschultz and Regal or anywhere else I looked.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
24. I'd like to see confirmation from another source first
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:36 PM
Aug 2013

Possible? Yes. Did it actually happen? I don't know, I wasn't there.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
77. It's not confirmation from another source.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:43 AM
Aug 2013

It's two other sources quoting the same source.

If I tell three people something, all they can confirm is that I said it. Not that it happened.

Regal's statement is ambiguous. It fails to confirm the content of Tiffany's, nor does it deny it. Which is smart (wanting to avoid a he-said/she-said situation) and foolish (because a lot of people will just believe Tiffany because, well, it has to be true).

 

East Coast Pirate

(775 posts)
26. Responding to a request for comment from the theater chain,
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:39 PM
Aug 2013

Russ Nunley, VP marketing and communications, Regal Entertainment Group, emailed the following statement to ABC7:

Regarding your inquiry, Regal Entertainment Group routinely employs security personnel to ensure the safety of all of our guests and staff. When a theatre experiences sold out showings of any feature, security will assist with crowd control and guest assistance throughout the facility, including auditoriums.

This weekend our Majestic theatre experienced a tremendous guest response to the feature 'Lee Daniels' The Butler' such that additional showtimes were added to meet our guests demands.

At no time last night did local management receive any guest complaints or concerns about our security or staff, who worked diligently to meet all of our guests needs.

To the extent any guests were disappointed with their experience, we welcome the opportunity to address their concerns and provide them the best entertainment experience possible in their future visits to our theatres.


More: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/08/moviegoers-charge-regal-cinema-with-racial-profiling-at-the-butler--92912.html
 

MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
35. I've NEVER EVER EVER seen ANy security personnel at a Regal theater.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:55 PM
Aug 2013

And that is the movie chain I almost always see movies in.

npk

(3,660 posts)
72. I've seen police officers at my local theater
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:52 PM
Aug 2013

Though they usually stand outside the theater near their cars or stand near the door stand in the lobby, but it's usually only on the weekend nights when more teenagers are hanging around.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. Welcome to entertainment in the "Colorblind America" of the 21st Century Police State.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:41 PM
Aug 2013

RegalMovies probably had to rent the armed goons for a 48 hour minimum, and wanted to get it's money's worth.

unionthug

(28 posts)
28. Regal politics indeed
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:42 PM
Aug 2013

Apparently Regal has a political history... reducing hours of employees to avoid 'Obamacare' and paying their boss a lot of money.

http://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?post=3d7f6741-b43d-46fd-b8fe-f26dacb257ad

At least they're consistent... true colors flying at every chance.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
33. GOOGLE Abraham Bolden
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 09:51 PM
Aug 2013

Learn the story of the first African American secret service agent on the White House detail. Explains a lot of how we got here.

Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden reported overt racism by his fellow agents and outright hostility toward the "n------loving president," quoting fellow Secret Service agents on the JFK detail.



Abraham Bolden speaks at JFK Lancer.



The story of a man who told the truth:



After 45 Years, a Civil Rights Hero Waits for Justice

Thom Hartmann
June 12, 2009 11:52 AM

A great miscarriage of justice has kept most Americas from learning about a Civil Rights pioneer who worked with President John F. Kennedy. But there is finally a way for citizens to not only right that wrong, but bring closure to the most tragic chapter of American presidential history.

After an outstanding career in law enforcement, Abraham Bolden was appointed by JFK to be the first African American presidential Secret Service agent, where he served with distinction. He was part of the Secret Service effort that prevented JFK's assassination in Chicago, three weeks before Dallas. But Bolden was framed by the Mafia and arrested on the very day he went to Washington to tell the Warren Commission staff about the Chicago attempt against JFK.

Bolden was sentenced to six years in prison, despite glaring problems with his prosecution. His arrest resulted from accusations by two criminals Bolden had sent to prison. In Bolden's first trial, an apparently biased judge told the jury that Bolden was guilty, even before they began their deliberations. Though granted a new trial because of that, the same problematic judge was assigned to oversee Bolden's second trial, which resulted in his conviction. Later, the main witness against Bolden admitted committing perjury against him. A key member of the prosecution even took the fifth when asked about the perjury. Yet Bolden's appeals were denied, and he had to serve hard time in prison, and today is considered a convicted felon.

After the release of four million pages of JFK assassination files in the 1990s, it became clear that Bolden -- and the official secrecy surrounding the Chicago attempt against JFK -- were due to National Security concerns about Cuba, that were unknown to Bolden, the press, Congress, and the public not just in 1963, but for the next four decades.

SNIP...

Abraham Bolden paid a heavy price for trying to tell the truth about events involving the man he was sworn to protect -- JFK -- that became mired in National Security concerns. Bolden still lives in Chicago, and has never given up trying to clear his name.

Will Abraham Bolden live to finally see the justice so long denied to him?

CONTINUED...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thom-hartmann/after-45-years-a-civil-ri_b_213834.html



After the assassination, he went to Washington on his own dime and reported what he saw to the Warren Commission. For his trouble -- and despite an exemplary record as a Brinks detective, Illinois State Trooper, and Secret Service agent -- Bolden was framed by the government using a paid informant's admitted perjury and spent a long time in prison. The government also drugged him and put him into psychiatric hospitals. His real crime was telling the truth.

The truth is something more people should try. Including the management of Regal Theaters.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
38. Silver Spring is a very diverse suburb of DC
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:06 PM
Aug 2013

I am surprised that the audience was mostly black.

This theater is in the revived downtown area, which is very nice, and very close to the national headquarters of the Discovery Channel, by the way. A major entertainment spot in the region.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
41. and how is not diverse?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:21 PM
Aug 2013

I go to a church at that exact spot.

It is indeed diverse. It is a neighborhood church.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
42. When I lived on Georgia Ave a few years ago I was the only nonblack person for several blocks
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:26 PM
Aug 2013

From Petworth north at least a few years ago was pretty solidly African American. Though maybe it's gentrified since then.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
102. That entire area is almost all gentrified now starting-at & north of Columbia Heights/Mt Pleasant.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:40 PM
Aug 2013

The entire 14th and 16th street corridors are now tres-chic and pricy.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
43. Not quite,
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:26 PM
Aug 2013

Silver Spring is not at the end of Georgia Avenue, Georgia runs up to Olney, and continues through farther out 'suburbs' to meet rte 70. There is a lot of diversity all along Georgia. (fwiw, I'm in Silver Spring now.)

'Silver Spring is an unincorporated area and census-designated place (CDP) in Montgomery County, Maryland, United States. It had a population of 71,452 at the 2010 census, making it the fourth most populous place in Maryland, after Baltimore, Columbia, and Germantown.[1]

Note: For the 2010 Census the boundaries of the Silver Spring CDP were changed reducing the land area by approx. 15%. As a result, the population count for 2010 shows a 6.6% decrease, while the population density increases 11%.

As of the 2010 census, there were 71,452 people, 28,603 households, and 15,684 families residing in the Silver Spring CDP. The population density was 9,021.7 people per square mile (3,485.5/km²). There were 30,522 housing units at an average density of 3,853.8 per square mile (1,488.9/km²). The racial makeup of the community was 45.7% White, 27.8% African American, 0.6% Native American, 7.9% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 13.2% from other races, and 4.8% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino people of any race consist of 26.3% of the population. Like much of the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area, Silver Spring's Hispanic population is mostly made up of Salvadorans and other immigrants from Central America.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Spring,_Maryland

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
44. Georgia Ave crosses Eastern Ave into Downtown Silver Spring
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:28 PM
Aug 2013

That and 16th St have old DC boundary stones at the intersections.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
49. The boundary is Eastern Ave the whole way
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:33 PM
Aug 2013

I had to learn this when I was living up there because it screws up the parking (DC owns everything up to the sidewalk, so SS residents can't park on Eastern). Georgia crosses Eastern by that 7-Eleven and continues through downtown.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
61. No!! Silver Spring is incredibly diverse!! You don't know what you're talking about.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:15 PM
Aug 2013

In fact, GA Ave is become MORE not less diverse.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
66. I know Silver Spring is diverse. Georgia Ave through DC isn't so much, or at least wasn't
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:23 PM
Aug 2013

If Petworth & points north have gentrified since then, awesome, but they hadn't when I lived there.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
45. I'm surprised too,
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:28 PM
Aug 2013

but The Butler is apparently showing in many local theaters (including Avalon, in Chevy Chase, DC.)

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
50. Background: the crime problem in downtown Silver Spring.
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:35 PM
Aug 2013

I have to point out that the total amount of crime for Montgomery County, which has about 900,000 residents, is minute compared to DC just to our south, just below Silver Spring, in fact.

http://silverspring.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/silver-spring-remains-the-highest-crime-area-in-montg4d01729277

Despite a decrease in reported crime, District 3—which encompasses the greater Silver Spring area, including Colesville, downtown Silver Spring, White Oak, Burtonsville and parts of Wheaton—remained the highest crime area of Montgomery County in 2010, according to a year-end crime report released Friday by Montgomery County Police.
The district also contained the most homicides; eight of the county’s 17 were committed there. Compared to 2009, there were only three homicides in the district, marking a major increase over a one-year period.

The Silver Spring district has had the highest number of reported crimes in the county every year since at least 2007, according to available police records. Police officials said it was difficult to cite one single reason for the volume of reported crime.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
55. Quite right,
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 10:47 PM
Aug 2013

and the area of DC contiguous with Silver Spring at Georgia and 16th St. is, I believe, low-crime for DC. (I lived there for 21 years.)

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
63. This may be true but Silver Spring is changing very rapidly and becoming more
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:19 PM
Aug 2013

Diverse--even though its already pretty diverse. I've lived here for nearly 20 years. The changes have been remarkable especially in Wheaton, which has indeed experienced some issues with crime. But it's all relative because crime in general is down for the entire DC area.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
57. FUCK ME!! I LIVE IN SILVER SPRING!!!
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:09 PM
Aug 2013

However I saw the movie in DC with friends. The audience was almost entirely white. Me and two of my friends were the only blacks in the audience. Everyone cheered, laughed, and cried throughout the movie.

Silver Spring is a liberal bastion!! What's going on here?!?

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
62. A Guide To Consumer Brands Helping Bankroll Right-Wing Attack Ads
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:18 PM
Aug 2013

A Guide To Consumer Brands Helping Bankroll Right-Wing Attack Ads

Have you eaten at White Castle recently? Or caught a movie at Regal Cinemas?

If so, you may be unwittingly helping finance right-wing attack ads.

That’s because many of the country’s most common brands are run by rich conservatives who are using their personal wealth to bankroll outside spending groups that are running attack ads smearing progressives. From Marriott Hotels to Brawny paper towels, and from the Los Angeles Lakers to the Coachella music festival, corporate executives at these organizations have given millions of dollars to groups like Mitt Romney’s Super PAC Restore Our Future.

Some corporations, like Waffle House, give direct donations to conservative attack ad groups like Karl Rove’s American Crossroads.

The following list of consumer brands either have leaders who wrote checks to outside right-wing attack ad groups or gave money directly from the corporation. Only entities that gave $25,000 or more were included in this guide.

More:
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/19/543801/consumer-brands-conservative-attack-ads/

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
78. thanks for link to the list
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:45 AM
Aug 2013

wasn't aware of a few of them and we should all be very aware of these anti American businesses .

Bethany Rockafella

(952 posts)
64. There is no way
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:20 PM
Aug 2013

There is no way I would sit through a theatre with armed guards in front. They should have walked out and demanded their money back. This isn't the 50's!

npk

(3,660 posts)
74. The fact that they didn't all walk out is a good indication this story is BS
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:11 AM
Aug 2013

Looks like a few people looking to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Lots of theaters these days have an increased presence of security, especially after the incident in Colorado. It's unfortunate that a few people believed this to be racially motivated, but theaters or any public places that handle large crowds have a lot of liability these days and people are quick to hammer these places when something does go wrong because there was no visible security present. Looks like its a lose/lose situation for the theater.

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
67. Reminds me of how theaters treated people when showing "New Jack City" and "Do The Right Thing." n/t
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:24 PM
Aug 2013

madville

(7,408 posts)
73. All the theaters around here have armed security
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:58 PM
Aug 2013

On Friday and Saturday night. They are always in the lobby though.

That is odd for them to be in the theatre, pretty obvious why.

IronLionZion

(45,431 posts)
85. FML, I live right there, walking distance from this theater
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:03 AM
Aug 2013

For anyone who is not familiar with this area, it is like the downtown area of SS, also used as a community gathering place for anything. It has been used as a location for political activity, protests, speeches, etc. but not violence. I haven't seen armed guards at the theater, but I have seen folks distributing materials for various causes outside.

And yes it is one of the most diverse cities on God's green earth: race, income, religion, age, etc. Everyone from everywhere is welcome in Silver Spring, MD. I stood in line all morning for early voting last fall and most everyone in line seemed to be liberal. I moved here 2 years ago because it seemed like a good balance between the yuppies of Bethesda and the hippies in Takoma Park.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
86. Thanks for the picture you draw, IronLionZion.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:42 AM
Aug 2013

I LOVE: 'it seemed like a good balance between the yuppies of Bethesda and the hippies in Takoma Park!'

elleng

(130,865 posts)
87. Sounds like Martin Bashir will cover this today:
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:45 AM
Aug 2013

'Viewers who went to see 'The Butler' in DC this past weekend reported that "the uniformed police who remained inside the theater throughout the show were not in uniform, but dressed in all black with their badges exposed, and wearing bullet-proof vests."'

Martin Bashir on FB

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
93. I've been to both theaters. Regal Frederick and Regal Silver Spring
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 03:02 PM
Aug 2013

The one in Frederick is nowhere near as crowded as the one in Silver Spring.

There have been armed guards there for years now. Ever since the Beltway Sniper and quite a few other incidents involving shooting around the country.

It tends to happen when there are big crowds in the theater. There were times that we were double validated.
I was there just recently this Friday. I did not get double validated though on that Friday night.

Though yes, that happens now and then. I remember being double validated during Avengers, when I watched it again after the midnight showing.

They can be heavy handed in the armed presence, but I haven't seen them specifically stop any one.

Not excusing the armed presence, but I didn't see it as a big deal if they didn't harass any one.

However having a police presence watching movie goers, is too much, this one I can't agree with. I didn't see that when I was there this Friday, and I am very sorry to hear that such a thing went on.

On Edit - There is a crime problem in Silver Spring from up there on Georgia all the way to Wheaton. It is a site where shootings have happened, as well as some other crimes. Also, full disclosure, I came from a different country where it is routine to have your bags and packages inspected as you enter a building, so I take such things in stride.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
94. Absolutely sickening.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 03:07 PM
Aug 2013

And though I am generally a fan of irony, this is way too potent an irony for me to enjoy in any way.

What year is this again?

Julie

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