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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:11 AM Aug 2013

Snowden journalist to publish UK secrets after Britain detains partner

Snowden journalist to publish UK secrets after Britain detains partner

By Pedro Fonseca

(Reuters) - The journalist who first published secrets leaked by fugitive former U.S. intelligence agency contractor Edward Snowden vowed on Monday to publish more documents and said Britain will be "sorry" for detaining his partner for nine hours.

British authorities used anti-terrorism laws on Sunday to detain David Miranda, partner of U.S. journalist Glenn Greenwald, as he passed through London's Heathrow airport.

Miranda, 28, a Brazilian citizen, said he was questioned for nine hours before being released without charge, minus his laptop, cellphone and memory sticks, which were seized.

<...>

"I will be far more aggressive in my reporting from now. I am going to publish many more documents. I am going to publish things on England too. I have many documents on England's spy system. I think they will be sorry for what they did," Greenwald, speaking in Portuguese, told reporters at Rio's airport where he met Miranda upon his return to Brazil.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/19/us-usa-security-snowden-brazil-idUSBRE97I0LZ20130819

Reminds me of past comments.

Carl Bernstein: Greenwald 'out of line' (updated)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023261520


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Snowden journalist to publish UK secrets after Britain detains partner (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2013 OP
Oh, Lawd... alcibiades_mystery Aug 2013 #1
Reality never follows a script, does it? randome Aug 2013 #2
Greenwald is a petulant child...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #3
So he's going to publish this information out of revenge and not ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #4
This may have been the ultimate point of their stupid plan. Whisp Aug 2013 #5
OK ... so if I think through that ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #11
Also... this reaction on GGs part is pretty quick, don't you think? Whisp Aug 2013 #27
I don't think its reveenge. boston bean Aug 2013 #6
It's revenge, and ProSense Aug 2013 #16
It all depends on why he didn't publish those documents in the first place. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #23
ROFL snooper2 Aug 2013 #7
He's not doing his cause any favors.Frankly sufrommich Aug 2013 #8
I finally figured out your posts. They are not posts but theory acceptability testing. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #9
you just made that up LOL, (and you forgot an I) snooper2 Aug 2013 #12
Thanks! Bad typist. I worked at the NSA...not sure about area codes either. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #15
AKA 'a conversation'. Step in, the water's fine. randome Aug 2013 #13
Yes, a little chat as you will. Comfy chair, cookies, tea..."oh by the way, about that traitor..." Safetykitten Aug 2013 #14
I "figured out your posts" a long time ago: nonsense. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #17
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Aug 2013 #20
Or the layman's term is "hurl shit at the wall and see what sticks" Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #18
She googles for stories that attack Snowden and then posts links... Logical Aug 2013 #19
But you see that is not the point, it's the responses by others and the "theory" that is important. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #21
Does Catherina do anything else? At least Prosense doesn't post hoaxes. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #24
Catherina is informative and not obsessed with one topic. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #30
So? Yeah, I use google, and you're outraged by that. ProSense Aug 2013 #25
You are no the center of anyones attention Prosense. No matter how much you want to be. n-t Logical Aug 2013 #29
So it has nothing to do with their actual opinion, principals, it's just wagon circling Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #31
It will be interesting to see whether The Guardian's lawyers agree with this. FarCenter Aug 2013 #10
Why wouldn't he publish these documents before? nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #22
Greenwald VOWS Vengance: ENGLAND 'WILL BE SORRY' ProSense Aug 2013 #26
Guess they shouldn't have used schedule 7 Rex Aug 2013 #28
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. Reality never follows a script, does it?
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:16 AM
Aug 2013

We're in a sci-fi-thriller-horror-romance-mystery world!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
4. So he's going to publish this information out of revenge and not ...
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:17 AM
Aug 2013

because he thought the public had a "need to know".

In other words, he had information on UK spying activity for some time, but he was going to sit on it.

However, now that the UK made him mad, he's going to publish that information ... and make them "sorry".

If his motive for releasing this info is to "make them sorry" ... I wonder what his motive for not publishing this information had been.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
5. This may have been the ultimate point of their stupid plan.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:19 AM
Aug 2013

To threaten another country and get more attention.

Keystone Cops style tho.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
11. OK ... so if I think through that ...
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:30 AM
Aug 2013

GG wants to publish the info he has on UK spying.

But he decides he needs a reason (one other than the "people's right to know"?)

So, he sends his spouse to get some material, with the intent of getting him detained.

So, that he can then say "That's it .... no more mister nice guy!!"

And publish the info he has. And maybe get more attention as a result.

I don't know ... he comes across like a blackmailer who took a bunch of pictures and has been holding on to them looking trying to decide when to leverage them.


 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
27. Also... this reaction on GGs part is pretty quick, don't you think?
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:36 PM
Aug 2013

Threatening the UK so quickly after the incident - has it even been 24 hours (I read aobut this here last night).

Is GG just being irresponsible and impulsive (quite possible) or did he already consider all the factors of announcing this, before the actual event? You would think this sort of act would require some time and consideration before you jump in with both flapping gums.

boston bean

(36,218 posts)
6. I don't think its reveenge.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:20 AM
Aug 2013

I think he may think if authoritiees have no respect for the process, why should he?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
16. It's revenge, and
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:38 AM
Aug 2013

"I think he may think if authoritiees have no respect for the process, why should he?"

...it's right in line with the way Greenwald thinks. Think about his previous similar comment:

"The U.S. government should be on your knees every day praying that nothing happens to Snowden, because if something happens, all information will be revealed and that would be their worst nightmare. "

In fact, when Greenwald accused the President of having a "vindictive mentality" (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023068613), I do believe he was projecting.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
8. He's not doing his cause any favors.Frankly
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:22 AM
Aug 2013

his concern toward government secrecy seems to hinge on how he personally feels about certain governments and whether or not he feels keeping their secrets is in his best interests.

 

Safetykitten

(5,162 posts)
9. I finally figured out your posts. They are not posts but theory acceptability testing.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:24 AM
Aug 2013

You use this as a lab for theory/talking point missives.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
12. you just made that up LOL, (and you forgot an I)
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:31 AM
Aug 2013

I thought so



About 4,110,000 results (0.38 seconds)

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randome

(34,845 posts)
13. AKA 'a conversation'. Step in, the water's fine.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:33 AM
Aug 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Safetykitten

(5,162 posts)
14. Yes, a little chat as you will. Comfy chair, cookies, tea..."oh by the way, about that traitor..."
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:35 AM
Aug 2013
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
19. She googles for stories that attack Snowden and then posts links...
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:47 AM
Aug 2013

To them without any original thoughts added.

Then uses that post in later posts to link back too.

Nothing original.

 

Safetykitten

(5,162 posts)
21. But you see that is not the point, it's the responses by others and the "theory" that is important.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:49 AM
Aug 2013

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
25. So? Yeah, I use google, and you're outraged by that.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 12:05 PM
Aug 2013

When I read the stories, I "posts links." O.M.G. The Horror.

It's actually better than what you do, following people around the board.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023485812#post28
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023393947#post3

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
31. So it has nothing to do with their actual opinion, principals, it's just wagon circling
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:34 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3489923

Would you have posted all that you have if there was a President Romney in office
or a Mccain?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3489967

No. Now what? Why are you upset that I posted it? n/t

They wonder why we accuse them of being paid propagandists.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
28. Guess they shouldn't have used schedule 7
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:15 PM
Aug 2013

that was stupid and there is no evidence that the UK got any information from Miranda since they let him go.

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