Washinton Post: Ted Cruz and Obama "apples to oranges" on birth certificate

[Enrique]

I'll post some of his imho nonsensical argument and then my email response to him:

(by the way, even Orly Taitz says the situation is the same with Cruz)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/08/19/no-ted-cruz-birthers-are-not-the-same-as-obama-birthers/

The reason? Because about the only thing these two situations have in common is that they involve a birth certificate and a presidential candidate.

Questions about Cruz’s eligibility have everything to do with interpretation of the law; the questions about Obama’s eligibility had everything to do with a dispute over the underlying facts — more specifically, conspiracy theories about whether the president was actually born in the United States, as he claimed, and whether he somehow forged a birth certificate that said he was born in Hawaii.

In Cruz’s case, nobody is disputing the underlying facts of the case — that Cruz was born in Canada to a Cuban father and a mother who was a United States citizen. As we wrote back in March, that makes him a U.S. citizen himself, but it’s not 100 percent clear that that is the same thing as a “natural born citizen” — the requirement for becoming president.

Most scholars think it’s the same thing, and the Congressional Research Service said in 2011 that someone like Cruz “most likely” qualifies to run for president. But to this point, there is no final word from the courts, because while foreign-born candidates have run — including George Romney and John McCain — none of them has actually won and had his eligibility challenged.

My email to him:

Dear Aaron,

Your reasoning is so oddly false that I wonder what's up.

The Birthers are accusing Obama of having the EXACT same status as we know for a fact that Ted Cruz has. Apples and apples.

If they are 100% right in their conspiracy theories, if Obama is indeed lying, then were are we? Obama has EXACTLY the same status as Cruz: born abroad to a mother who is a U.S. citizen.

The only way someone could see it as apples and oranges is if they saw Canada and Kenya as inherently different fruit.

Regards,

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

1. If Barack Obama's father was Barry Winthorpe III born in

Great Britain this discussion would've probably never taken place to begin with.

[Enrique]

2. or if he had your name

for that matter.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

4. Indeed sir. Let me assure you that the Corngoods have a very long, proud and incredibly white

history in this country.

[GeorgeGist]

3. You do realize that Obama was born in the US not Kenya?

[Enrique]

5. yes, that's why there is an "if"

in order to address this writer's argument (which I see now is essentially the argument made by the birther Steve Stockman), i am conceding that the conspiracy theories are true. Hypothetically.

[kentuck]

6. One was born in America and one was not...

Other than that small detail, there are some similarities. BOTH WERE BORN TO AMERICAN MOTHERS. Both had foreign fathers. Now, which hypocrite wants to argue otherwise?

[Mass]

7. Absolutely non sensical, but I guess this is what passes for factual reporting these days.

I guess that if somebody said that humans breath CO2 and reject O2, Blake would feel compelled to write there is a dispute on the human breathing process?

In addition, you are right, even if we accept the conspiracy theories, it would place Obama in the same situation as Cruz.