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How the NSA scours the internet in one handy graphic (Original Post) nashville_brook Aug 2013 OP
All this surveillance and it took years to find Osama Bin Laden Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #1
The Base Rate Fallacy Pholus Aug 2013 #2
More people killed on the road each day than in terrorist attacks Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #3
more people killed by toddlers than terrorists nashville_brook Aug 2013 #4

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
1. All this surveillance and it took years to find Osama Bin Laden
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 11:49 PM
Aug 2013

Hmmmm!

Lots of information about hockey scores, online purchases of prom dresses and old ladies knitting patterns.

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
2. The Base Rate Fallacy
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:11 AM
Aug 2013

Terrorists are rare. To estimate the number of actual killer terrorists in the country (most of whom haven't actually done anything yet) let's estimate 9/11 as a major effort that used perhaps 10% of them. That would give us 200 committed terrorists in the population.

Let's say that the NSA created an incredible technique that is accurate at identifying a terrorist in collected (sorry "touched&quot info 99.9% of the time. That is probably much better than what can be accomplished to be honest.

The 99.9% success rate means they would find almost all 200 terrorists easily: (0.999 * 200) = 199.8.

But the algorithm also fails 0.1% of the time. In the US population of 316 million that means that (0.001 * 316 million) = 316000 Americans falsely under suspicion as well.

In the end, a given person fingered by a 99.9% accurate algorithm as a terrorist would only be guilty 0.06% of the time.

This seems to have been understood after 9/11....

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/politics/17spy.html?oref=login

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
3. More people killed on the road each day than in terrorist attacks
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 08:46 PM
Aug 2013

minimal funding for traffic calming yet billions for catching 2 terrorists

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