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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 09:30 AM Aug 2013

Greenwald: How Dare I NOT Curtsy to the Queen & Thank The UK Government For What They Have Done.

Sending a message': what the US and UK are attempting to do
State-loyal journalists seem to believe in a duty to politely submit to bullying tactics from political officials

............here's the most important point: the US and the UK governments go around the world threatening people all the time. It's their modus operandi. They imprison whistleblowers. They try to criminalize journalism. They threatened the Guardian with prior restraint and then forced the paper to physically smash their hard drives in a basement. They detained my partner under a terrorism law, repeatedly threatened to arrest him, and forced him to give them his passwords to all sorts of invasive personal information - behavior that even one of the authors of that terrorism law says is illegal, which the Committee for the Protection of Journalists said yesterday is just "the latest example in a disturbing record of official harassment of the Guardian over its coverage of the Snowden leaks", and which Human Rights Watch says was "intended to intimidate Greenwald and other journalists who report on surveillance abuses." And that's just their recent behavior with regard to press freedoms: it's to say nothing of all the invasions, bombings, renderings, torture and secrecy abuses for which that bullying, vengeful duo is responsible over the last decade.

But the minute anyone refuses to meekly submit to that, or stands up to it, hordes of authoritarians - led by state-loyal journalists - immediately start objecting: how dare you raise your voice to the empire? How dare you not politely curtsy to the Queen and thank the UK government for what they have done. The US and UK governments are apparently entitled to run around and try to bully and intimidate anyone, including journalists - "to send a message to recipients of Snowden's materials, including the Guardian", as Reuters put it - but nobody is allowed to send a message back to them. That's a double standard that nobody should accept.

If the goal of the UK in detaining my partner was - as it now claims - to protect the public from terrorism by taking documents they suspected he had (and why would they have suspected that?), that would have taken 9 minutes, not 9 hours. Identically, the UK knew full well that forcing the Guardian UK to destroy its hard drives would accomplish nothing in terms of stopping the reporting: as the Guardian told them, there are multiple other copies around the world. The sole purpose of all of that, manifestly, is to intimidate. As the ACLU of Massachusetts put it:

The real vengeance we are seeing right now is not coming from Glenn Greenwald; it is coming from the state."


But for state-loyal journalists, protesting thuggish and aggressive behavior from the state is out of the question. It's only when aggressive challenges come from those who are bringing transparency and accountability to the state do they get upset and take notice. As Digby wrote last night: "many elite journalists seem to be joining the government repression of the free press instead of being defiant and protecting their own prerogatives." That's because they believe in subservient journalism, not adversarial journalism. I only believe in the latter.

MORE:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/21/sending-message-miranda-gchq-nsa
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Greenwald: How Dare I NOT Curtsy to the Queen & Thank The UK Government For What They Have Done. (Original Post) kpete Aug 2013 OP
K&R MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #1
Good post! K & R !!! Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #2
Dissing the Queen? That won't make him popular in some quarters.... FarCenter Aug 2013 #3
I agree with what the ACLU of Massachusetts said. k&r Little Star Aug 2013 #4
"hordes of authoritarians - led by state-loyal journalists"... 1 or 2 of them on DU. MNBrewer Aug 2013 #5
So is there any lawsuit against the security services coming down the pipeline? Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #6
Shorter Greenwald: "Look at meeeee!!!"... SidDithers Aug 2013 #7
I'm waiting for it to go full-circle and he starts complaining about Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #8
I can see that happening. JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #9

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. So is there any lawsuit against the security services coming down the pipeline?
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 10:58 AM
Aug 2013

And how big is the movement in the UK to get that 'terrorism' law repealed? That's what I'm personally interested in...

If Greenwald wants to accuse Reuters of a vendetta against him because of a sensationalist headline, fine...But he at least should be professional enough to print in his column that Reuters *DID* edit their stories with a more accurate one...

Can Greenwald please get back to publishing documents? That's what this whole thing is supposed to be about...

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
7. Shorter Greenwald: "Look at meeeee!!!"...
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:12 AM
Aug 2013

Only believe in adversarial journalism, Glennie?

Why not just plain journalism?

Clown.

Sid

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. I'm waiting for it to go full-circle and he starts complaining about
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:25 PM
Aug 2013

how his high-profile celebrity status won't let him live a "normal" life....

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