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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:40 PM Aug 2013

DHS Employee Promotes Race War in Spare Time, Advocates Mass Murder of Whites

By day, Ayo Kimathi works for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as a small business specialist in a unit that buys such items as handcuffs, ammunition and guns.

Off-duty, he calls himself “the Irritated Genie.” He’s a gay-bashing, revenge-seeking black nationalist who advocates on his website – War on the Horizon – the mass murder of whites and the “ethnic cleansing” of “black-skinned Uncle Tom race traitors.”

“Warfare is eminent,” the website declares, “and in order for Black people to survive the 21st century, we are going to have to kill a lot of whites – more than our Christian hearts can possibly count.”

A former supervisor of Kimathi’s at the DHS told Hatewatch, “Everybody in the office is afraid of him.”

“This guy is filled with hate,” the supervisor continued. “People are afraid he will come in with a gun someday and go postal. I am astounded, he’s employed by the federal government, let alone Homeland Security.”

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http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/08/21/dhs-employee-promotes-race-war-in-spare-time-advocates-mass-murder-of-whites/#.UhUrdElWfjY.twitter

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DHS Employee Promotes Race War in Spare Time, Advocates Mass Murder of Whites (Original Post) cali Aug 2013 OP
What the hell? wild bird Aug 2013 #1
one assumes that there are protocols for something like this cali Aug 2013 #2
You would hope so, wild bird Aug 2013 #3
at least a transfer Enrique Aug 2013 #7
wtf? if an investigation finds he operates that site, fire him cali Aug 2013 #9
What would be a good match? RZM Aug 2013 #10
The NRA! IronLionZion Aug 2013 #12
At least that's the private sector RZM Aug 2013 #14
yep, even if true, there are serious freedom of speech issues here Supersedeas Aug 2013 #17
wow...I don't agree with the WAY Snowden started the review of what our agencies does and I don't uponit7771 Aug 2013 #4
I'm not clear on what this has to do with Snowden. At all. cali Aug 2013 #5
Wrong thread perhaps? kiva Aug 2013 #6
Your auto-post program is broken. Turn off and restart it.. should fix it up. n/t 1awake Aug 2013 #16
exactly! If Snowden hadn't done that - there would be no wmd attacks in Syria and Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #46
This guy sounds totally unstable LittleBlue Aug 2013 #8
agreed Liberal_in_LA Aug 2013 #35
Well that sounds Aerows Aug 2013 #11
DHS has a pretty stringent background investigation, on par with defense/intel IronLionZion Aug 2013 #13
thanks for the info cali Aug 2013 #15
The guy is a purchasing agent madville Aug 2013 #18
weapons r us Supersedeas Aug 2013 #19
If you have heard this from caucasians all your lives.... mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #20
not sure if your trying to justify this lunatic, seems the same as justifying the other side of loli phabay Aug 2013 #21
Nope not trying to justify. mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #23
still seems that you are using what has happened before to justify this guy loli phabay Aug 2013 #26
The truth... Lancero Aug 2013 #41
Of course it is. And it's no more justifiable when white people do it. nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #47
What comes around, goes around? Supersedeas Aug 2013 #22
Understanding History doesn't make mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #25
problem is this kind of hate is against whole groups rather than the offending individual loli phabay Aug 2013 #27
True, it is only a matter of time Supersedeas Aug 2013 #29
oh bullshit. cali Aug 2013 #33
most people sure as fuck don't believe in killing lots of members of another race. cali Aug 2013 #24
seldom do i agree with you, but you nailed it loli phabay Aug 2013 #28
To get angry with me mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #30
I'm not angry with you. I'm angry with the kind of mentality you exhibit cali Aug 2013 #32
don't insult his version of history Supersedeas Aug 2013 #38
I never said most people. mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #44
those questions are imbedded in the previous post Supersedeas Aug 2013 #31
well that was about as clear as a bowl of oatmeal. cali Aug 2013 #34
sure, thanks Supersedeas Aug 2013 #36
what on earth are you trying to say, dear? cali Aug 2013 #37
He's now been put on paid leave. B2G Aug 2013 #39
history we can believe in Supersedeas Aug 2013 #42
This guy has as much credibility of starting a race war as Cartman does. Initech Aug 2013 #40
maybe that's where onethatcares Aug 2013 #43
Right before he starts killing people just have him tell others he was bored The Straight Story Aug 2013 #45
 

wild bird

(421 posts)
1. What the hell?
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:50 PM
Aug 2013

Why is this racist POS still employed at DHS?
Are they afraid that if fired, he'll come back with a gun and start shooting?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
2. one assumes that there are protocols for something like this
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 01:53 PM
Aug 2013

that include an investigation and findings. that seems appropriate to me.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. wtf? if an investigation finds he operates that site, fire him
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:10 PM
Aug 2013

And the SPLC wouldn't have published that report without conducting their own due diligence. Fire him. He's a dangerous, hateful bigot, a misogynist pig and a homophobe.

He actually works for I.C.E.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
10. What would be a good match?
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:11 PM
Aug 2013

I can't really think of one. Time to take his chances in the private sector.

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
12. The NRA!
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:50 PM
Aug 2013

I always ask gun nuts their thoughts on african-americans and muslims getting assault weapons and they always get flustered and red-faced.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
14. At least that's the private sector
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:58 PM
Aug 2013

I have no problem with this moron having his blog. I just don't think he should be a federal employee.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
4. wow...I don't agree with the WAY Snowden started the review of what our agencies does and I don't
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:01 PM
Aug 2013

...think the end justifies the means in this case seeing he had another route

I do think it needs to be had reading about stuff like this...

I wish Obama had raised the discussion to the level that was needed BEFORE Snowden did via illegal acts

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
46. exactly! If Snowden hadn't done that - there would be no wmd attacks in Syria and
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:45 PM
Aug 2013

the polar region would not be having to deal with high radiation levels and we would already have a public option for ACA, That traitor ruined everything for everybody

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. Well that sounds
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:16 PM
Aug 2013

like a rational individual that should be in the DHS looking out for our security.

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
13. DHS has a pretty stringent background investigation, on par with defense/intel
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 02:55 PM
Aug 2013

They check into activities, associations, known associates, political activities, financial problems, drug problems, etc. with lots of character references. Its incredible that this fool would have slipped through.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
15. thanks for the info
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:00 PM
Aug 2013


pretty disturbing that this nutcase is working for DHS. Going postal should be a concern with someone like this.

madville

(7,408 posts)
18. The guy is a purchasing agent
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:33 AM
Aug 2013

He probably doesn't even have a secret clearance. The background check would look for active warrants and past arrests, maybe a form to ask him to self report any issues like drug/alcohol abuse/etc. They don't really go much deeper than that until you go above a secret clearance.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
20. If you have heard this from caucasians all your lives....
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:05 PM
Aug 2013

why wouldn't you think a black man would feel the same way??? I am not condoning any violence. but if you target a race for violence from the time you have come in their presence, why wouldn't anyone think that there wouldn't be a black person who felt that way?? Well please be aware. There are some black people who will not take some things with a grain of salt and use civil disobedience. You cannot be violent to people and think they are all going to be non-violent. Look how long these crimes of hate have been perpetrated in America. This is not to justify the employee who is advocating violence. I am a firm believer that if you use violence you get violence. And I don't see why any one is scared. They have been hearing this kind of rhetoric for years. Only its been coming from the other side.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
21. not sure if your trying to justify this lunatic, seems the same as justifying the other side of
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:13 PM
Aug 2013

The coin. Hate is hate regardless of the colour of the waste of skin it comes from.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
26. still seems that you are using what has happened before to justify this guy
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:19 PM
Aug 2013

Him hating one group of people due to what individuals in that group have done does not give him any justification for his racism.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
47. Of course it is. And it's no more justifiable when white people do it.
Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:55 AM
Aug 2013

Before you raise an objection, check out any comment thread RE: a black guy getting shot by cops (or even non-cops). You're bound to find at least one "Now to take out the rest of these thugs!" type comment. The genocidal implications are rather obvious.

Supersedeas

(20,630 posts)
22. What comes around, goes around?
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:13 PM
Aug 2013

You don't condone it, but you understand it?

Does that make it understandable all the way around?

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
25. Understanding History doesn't make
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:19 PM
Aug 2013

this individual right. If you keep hitting a person sooner or later they will hit you back. At what point does a person stand their ground???

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
27. problem is this kind of hate is against whole groups rather than the offending individual
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:21 PM
Aug 2013

If everybody hated everyone in a group due to some individuals in the group we would have open warfare on the streets.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. most people sure as fuck don't believe in killing lots of members of another race.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:19 PM
Aug 2013

I'm hardly the greatest believer in the goodness of human nature, but I find your post ridiculous. Most people of any race don't fantasize about race wars.

It's insulting as hell to AA men to ask the question you asked. Moreover, despite the institutional racism that still exists to varying degrees, the vast majority of AAs alive in this country have not been targeted for violence by white people either individually or collectively.

And sorry, I wouldn't want to work with anyone who advocates mass murder and I don't give a shit what gender or race they are. do that and you're a sick fuck.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
30. To get angry with me
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:27 PM
Aug 2013

is to deny that some people do feel angry. All I am saying is racism works both ways. but if you have 300 years of blatant racist behavior, (and this is not all white people) why wouldn't you believe that there are some African Americans who are filled with the same type of attitudes as a KKK member or a Skinhead?? I am just saying this isn't your Brother Martin's Generation. I have heard this language before. There will be some who think I am justifying, NO, just stating what I know and see. Doesn't make it right. Silly fool here said he would burn our city down. Did he mean it??? I don't know. he said it in front of City Council and all Local news media.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
32. I'm not angry with you. I'm angry with the kind of mentality you exhibit
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:32 PM
Aug 2013

And I'm not denying people feel angry: I'm telling you flat fucking out that most people don't entertain fantasies of murdering masses of people of other races, let alone set up a website advocating that. It's not only people of other races that this sick fuck hates; it's gay people and women.

I'm not denying either that there are some AAs who are racist. This guy is a clear example. I'm saying those people are sick fucks. Don't like that? too bad.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
44. I never said most people.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:08 PM
Aug 2013

I never said that they were of sound mind either. You have taken this way too far. You accused me of something I neither said nor implied. Or inferred for that matter. I just said I wasn't surprised and I have heard this rhetoric before. And whether I like what you say or not still doesn't change the fact that he is not the only man in of any race with that type of feeling in his heart and mind. I have friends who are of Middle eastern descent, do you really think they are not angry and say things when they find out one of their cousins or family members are killed by our drones. You know those casualties of War. Even when they Broadcast from those Countries you see we are making enemies as we go along. All I'm saying is that if this is going to have a real conversation we must acknowledge in my community as well as others that their are extreme individuals no matter what. And they probably are sick fucks but with all the hot rhetoric a lot of people of all races have felt embolden to say things that are far off the charts. And there are Supremist sights that advocate violence. Hate groups which you think are few really is more prevalent than you think. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map. And I say again, this should not be surprising. Lately in the last 5 years the Repug trolls have been on their job and have stoked an anger that is being shown from almost every Nationality. There are those of us who are trying to de-fuse a lot of this rhetoric, but its hard when you know those that are angry really don't know the truth. Let alone tell them logical facts to their anger. And as far as this man working for DHS is purely laughable. If Michelle Bachmann is in Congress, nothing surprises me anymore.

Supersedeas

(20,630 posts)
31. those questions are imbedded in the previous post
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:29 PM
Aug 2013

my point, in case you missed it (you did), is: are you SERIOUS about the implications of that post?

thanks for the strawman though...have fun with that

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
34. well that was about as clear as a bowl of oatmeal.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 01:35 PM
Aug 2013

oh, and learn what a strawman is as it's clear you're clueless about that.... too.

Supersedeas

(20,630 posts)
36. sure, thanks
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 02:06 PM
Aug 2013

I hope you enjoy the version of history that Ayo Kimathi is selling. I'll pass on that sort of "learning".

Again, thanks.

onethatcares

(16,165 posts)
43. maybe that's where
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 03:38 PM
Aug 2013

the 3,500,000 rounds of AK47 ammo are going that have been ordered by DHS.

I've seen enough squawking from a few rightwing blowhards that DHS is ordering that much making it hard for them
to stockpile for the upcoming race war.

Jeeez, if they could have only hooked up with this guy.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
45. Right before he starts killing people just have him tell others he was bored
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 11:35 PM
Aug 2013

Then no one will call what he does racist (and he can tell others his best buddy is white and have him drive him around, which will ensure that the crimes are not seen as racist).

A bored person who says he hates whites and wants to kill them certainly would not kill a white person if they were white because he was bored.

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