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Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
1. Good for them, and good for Chelsea for standing up for who she is
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 06:41 PM
Aug 2013

Screw the bigots who are attacking her for this and suggesting it harms her credibility, anyone who thinks this harms her credibility is a bigot. Period.

rsmith6621

(6,942 posts)
3. As Much As I Support T. Gender individuals
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 08:34 PM
Aug 2013


...I hope no tax $$$$$ are used to fund this transition. We have to many hungry elementary kids in schools to have to pay for this.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
4. Try to put this in perspective.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:05 AM
Aug 2013

Even if the Army did pay for PFC Manning's gender reassignment, which they say they won't, how much would it cost them? $100,000, maybe?

You know how long it takes the Army to spend $100,000 on their daily business, like killing civilians with drone strikes? About five seconds.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
5. Should health care pay for breast cancer victim implants?
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:18 AM
Aug 2013

Or are those implants reserved for the wealthy?



I don't understand the controversy around gender reassignment surgery.

Ms. Toad

(34,064 posts)
6. You could start with a little self-education.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 12:45 AM
Aug 2013

If you supported trans* individuals, then you

  • would not refer to Chelsea Manning as "him"
  • would realize that taxpayers pay for all medical care for convicted criminals - why should care for this condition be any different?
  • would understand that the medical care associated with transition varies from near nothing to the cost of a couple of surgeries and ongoing hormone therapy. One of the medications used is also used as treatment for high blood pressure (and fully covered when it is used by convicted criminals for that or reasons other than transition).
  • would have a clue that the cost of treating all trans* individuals who are incarcerated - even at the most expensive end of the cost range - is barely a drop in the bucket when compared to the cost of providing food to hungry elementary kids.


So if you really do support trans* individuals, how about being vocal in ways which actually are supportive rather than inserting random irrelevant negative comments into the conversation stream.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
8. Oh won't somebody think of the children?!?!
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:48 AM
Aug 2013

We're all someone's children. And should all deserve the same kind of respect.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
9. As if not allowing her operation is going to mean more kids are fed.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:54 AM
Aug 2013


Your argument leaves me skeptical of your intentions.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
10. The talk page is a bit of a shit show at the moment. The alterations were not properly discussed...
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:55 AM
Aug 2013

Which is a huge no-no on Wiki. I might try and get in there and argue our side.

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