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Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:29 PM Aug 2013

While the NSA scares you.. this is what scares me

dishwashers? your remote controls?. your cable box?... your coffee maker?.. we have all gone over the edge, and become part of a very scary future..

My hope is someone will tell me this is a Onion article.. that somehow got posted into the news by accident

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/9-household-items-could-spying-100006425.html

just one little excerpt from the article:

1. Your Television

Ever wonder how your TV remembers what shows you’ve watched, which ones you plan to watch, and how long you watched last episode of “Homeland” before falling into nightmare-ridden sleep?

It does it all by connecting to the Internet. Therein lies its weakness. Computer Security firm ReVuln proved last year that it could hack Samsung’s newest televisions, accessing users’ settings, installing malware on the TVs and any connected devices, and harvesting all the personal data stored on the machine. They could even switch on the camera embedded in the TV and watch viewers watching the set.

Samsung says it patched the security flaw. That said, who’s to say that Samsung is the only brand to have experienced a security issue?

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While the NSA scares you.. this is what scares me (Original Post) Peacetrain Aug 2013 OP
You ever turn all the controls on in somebody's car? snooper2 Aug 2013 #1
the coffee maker?? Peacetrain Aug 2013 #2
Comedian Lewis Black did a riff on all the ways the truedelphi Aug 2013 #3
what an awful feeling Peacetrain Aug 2013 #6
Cable companies have had and have been using this capacity for many years and the satellite Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #4
I have been thinking more and more about that Peacetrain Aug 2013 #7
My advice is don't think about it too much, it just gets depressing. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #14
Well EG.. I am going back to making coffee Peacetrain Aug 2013 #19
Why does a TV set need an embedded camera? winter is coming Aug 2013 #5
I have a Samsung.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #8
When the article's author's spouse is detained for 9 hours at Heathrow . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #9
My 34 year-old, American built Curtis Mathes TV doesn't spy on me nor sinkingfeeling Aug 2013 #10
I wish my old tv still worked Peacetrain Aug 2013 #11
Well, people are being spied on in London by Garbage Cans. And that is a fact. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #12
What? Peacetrain Aug 2013 #13
Lol. "Is Your Trash Can Spying on your Smart PhonE" sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #15
It is chilling to think about Peacetrain Aug 2013 #16
I'm not sure all young people are used to it or like it. Some have accepted it, true. But OWS eg sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #21
Good points! Peacetrain Aug 2013 #24
i'll be scared when samsung starts arresting people frylock Aug 2013 #17
Or samsung's 'security details/mercenaries. Don't they all have their own private armies now? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #22
My toaster-oven threatened to rat me out to the IRS ... dawg Aug 2013 #18
Just like I posted to someone else a minute ago Peacetrain Aug 2013 #20
That smacks of poppycockism Stinky The Clown Aug 2013 #23
I am all for this being an Onion piece.. Peacetrain Aug 2013 #25
I've yelled at my TV, asking why it doesn't show certain movies Pathwalker Aug 2013 #26
simple solution PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #27
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
1. You ever turn all the controls on in somebody's car?
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:32 PM
Aug 2013

They leave the doors unlocked, you crank up the radio, turn on wipers, turn signal, heater all way, etc?


Imagine the good fun a hacker could have with a fully automated house

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
2. the coffee maker??
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:35 PM
Aug 2013

it is just breath taking.. I always thought the old canard about the TV watching was just urban legend.. apparently if this article is correct we have entered that reality..

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
3. Comedian Lewis Black did a riff on all the ways the
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:40 PM
Aug 2013

new X Box and other games can look into your living room. He was not joking. (Okay he was joking, but he had citations to real news shows about the fact that cameras now watch people playing their games in their living room.)

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
4. Cable companies have had and have been using this capacity for many years and the satellite
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:46 PM
Aug 2013

providers have as well. People just don't understand even a small part of the power available to those with access to the data they willingly surrender every day of their lives.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
7. I have been thinking more and more about that
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:22 PM
Aug 2013

how it is US WE that has been giving all our information over to be exploited.

How we have to have the latest and greatest new dandy item, just thinking about all the smart phones people go through and the elements in those phones that are so damaging to the environment.

Its mind boggling and now all those goodies are watching you..

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
14. My advice is don't think about it too much, it just gets depressing.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:12 PM
Aug 2013

Learn enough to be sure within yourself, and then set about withdrawing from it. (Monkey-wrenching's always good if you're in position do some)

Peace and good luck to us all.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
19. Well EG.. I am going back to making coffee
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:20 PM
Aug 2013

with my Melita filter..and unplugging the Bunn .. your dishwasher.. I can't wait till my husband gets home to read this.. because we thought people were you know a little off the deep end when they would talk about TV's and cables channels watching you.. he is going to be just like me I think.. going what the heck

Good grief I wonder what the microwave does.. tape us as we run out of the shower and through the kitchen..

I am going to be tempted to wave at all my appliances from now on

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
5. Why does a TV set need an embedded camera?
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:48 PM
Aug 2013

Seriously; I've got an old TV and have no clue when it comes to the "features" on new TVs.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
8. I have a Samsung..
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:23 PM
Aug 2013

a few years old.. had no idea that cameras are embedded in them.. and the question is exactly the one you asked.. WHY?

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
9. When the article's author's spouse is detained for 9 hours at Heathrow . . .
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:25 PM
Aug 2013

. . . for bringing this to the public's attention, then I'll get worried about Samsung.

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
10. My 34 year-old, American built Curtis Mathes TV doesn't spy on me nor
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:28 PM
Aug 2013

does it know what shows I've watched.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
11. I wish my old tv still worked
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 02:30 PM
Aug 2013

we have to have cable to get reception.. the way we are situated on a hill.. the antenna did not work for us when the change went through.. it is just a maddening circle..

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
15. Lol. "Is Your Trash Can Spying on your Smart PhonE"
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 03:48 PM
Aug 2013
Is Your Trash Can Spying On Your Phone?

I know, it sounds insane, but it is true. However when Londoners found out that while they were leaning against a garbage can talking on their phones, an 'orb' in the garbage can was watching and listening, there was enough outrage to get them banned.



The City of London is putting a stop to a troop of trash cans monitoring the smartphones of passers by. I admit, that is a sentence I never thought I would write. Quartz was first to report on this interesting feature of the latest refuse cans. The trash cans in question were installed in the run up to the Olympics and were installed at no cost to the tax payer instead funded by a screen which could display advertising. We have all grown pretty used to being constantly bombarded with advertising, so what is the big deal? Interestingly, a number of these trash cans recently had tracking ‘orbs’ (why on earth it is called an orb other than to sound awesome) which pick up broadcasts from your smartphone as you walk past.

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As we overlay our movements in the digital and physical world more and more such scenarios will become far more intrusive and far more common. You may want to ask yourself what is spying on you already, what might in the future, what information you are sharing and whether you are OK with this trade off of convenience and privacy.


'Every step you take,
Every move you make
I'll be watching you
Oh can't you see
You belong to me'

This should be the anthem of the Surveillance State!

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
16. It is chilling to think about
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:17 PM
Aug 2013

I am 3/4ths of the way through my life.. and I guess the Millennials like my son, are used to it.. but it just does not seem right to not have privacy in your own home .. or putting out your garbage..

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. I'm not sure all young people are used to it or like it. Some have accepted it, true. But OWS eg
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 05:35 PM
Aug 2013

was sparked by young people who are not at all happy with the direction of this country.

One thing that may contribute to some people accepting these violations of our rights, is the lack of a knowledge of history.

We need to teach more history. Many are living in a bubble here with zero concept of what can happen if these policies and intrusions on our rights, are not reigned in.

dawg

(10,622 posts)
18. My toaster-oven threatened to rat me out to the IRS ...
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:19 PM
Aug 2013

if I don't stop toasting those crumbly-ass English muffins in there.

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
20. Just like I posted to someone else a minute ago
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 04:22 PM
Aug 2013

I am going to be waving at my appliances as I go through the kitchen from now on

Peacetrain

(22,874 posts)
25. I am all for this being an Onion piece..
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 06:54 PM
Aug 2013

Because there are no FISA courts for corporations.. no one to go to as they accumulate everything about us..

I got it out of Yahoo news Finance .. did you read the one about the garbage cans in England.. it is further up the thread.. its nuts I tell you.. nuts

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
26. I've yelled at my TV, asking why it doesn't show certain movies
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 07:29 PM
Aug 2013

that I'd rather watch, than the crap they're showing. Quite often, the movies I've referenced will show up a few days to a week later. I guess I should be relieved that Comcast is listening to me, but it's happened often enough that it's getting creepy.

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