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The New York Times is in the Snowden game.
And get this:
Now the Times or an agent for the paper, too, appears to have carried digital files from the United Kingdom across international lines into the United States. Discussions of how to partner on the documents were carried out in person between top Guardian editors and Times executive editor Jill Abramson, all of whom declined to comment on the movement of documents. But it appears likely that someone at one of the two papers physically carried a drive with Snowdens GCHQ leaks from London to New York or Washington exactly what Miranda was stopped at Heathrow for doing
http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/new-york-times-guardian-snowden
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/23/1233373/-Whoa-New-York-Times-Now-Has-Snowden-Docs-Carried-By-Secret-Courier-into-the-US
The New York Times can always be counted on to do the right thing after it has exhausted all other options.
That reporter is not James Risen who of course broke the original NSA story with Eric Lichtblau. It is not Charlie Savage who had an important story based on the Snowden leaks already.
It is Scott Shane.
The Timess Charlie Savage and other reporters have chased the NSA story aggressively, despite Snowdens choice to go to fillmmaker Laura Poitras, theGuardians Glenn Greenwald, and Barton Gellman, who has written about the documents for the Washington Post. Snowden said he did not go to the Times because the paper bowed to Bush Administration demands to delay a story on warrantless wiretapping in the interest of national security; he was afraid, he said, the paper would do the same with his revelations.
Now, Times reporter Scott Shane is at work on a series of stories expected to be published next month jointly with the Guardian, a source familiar with the plans said. The source said the internal arrangement has also been the cause of some tension in the newsroom, as other national security reporters working on the NSA story Savage and James Risen, among others are not centrally involved in stories based on the Guardians documents.
Scott Shane has an increasingly consistent ability to tell grand tales that serve the interests of The Powers that Be. And somehow his stories about extremely sensitive subjects like drones dont get chased for leaks.
- See more at: http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/08/23/how-to-get-the-government-to-ease-up-involve-scott-shane/#sthash.SUr1gc4B.dpuf
http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/08/23/how-to-get-the-government-to-ease-up-involve-scott-shane/
and why we should worry:
http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/05/29/when-nyt-accused-jim-comey-of-approving-torture/
http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/04/12/scott-shane-defends-the-commander-in-chiefs-language/
trumad
(41,692 posts)LearningCurve
(488 posts)Pass it down.
This is sarcasm, I don't know how to find the smiley.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)You heard it hear, first. Throw Jill Abramson under the bus.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Amidst the curious silence we can hear the double-standards chirping.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Or a cell next to Manning, or she's a traitor that can't face up to her crimes of ... possessing classified information!
At least we know that our government, along with the UK, are not going to be able to bury the information without someone knowing what is going to be buried. At least, for the time being...
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)at the very least. We get to see it with our own eyes.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)I'll bet there is some serious pant-shitting on "well how do we frame it from here? Now we've pissed off journalists from the NYT and in the UK."
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)The "mule" might have been on the same flight and sailed right through as smug agents molested Miranda.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)It's the only way we can be safe.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)The UK govt making the guardian destroy their files. Now they will undoubtedly pay a price for it.
valerief
(53,235 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)if this reporter is as friendly to authoritarians as they say.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)...
Twelve days after the destruction of the files the Guardian reported on US funding of GCHQ eavesdropping operations and published a portrait of working life in the British agency's huge "doughnut" building in Cheltenham. Guardian US, based and edited in New York, has also continued to report on evidence of NSA co-operation with US telecommunications corporations to maximise the collection of data on internet and phone users around the world.
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Rusbridger took the decision that if the government was determined to stop UK-based reporting on the Snowden files, the best option was destroy the London copy and to continue to edit and report from America and Brazil. Journalists in America are protected by the first amendment, guaranteeing free speech.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/20/nsa-snowden-files-drives-destroyed-london
And the Guardian's editor had this in mind from before - during the Wikileaks article work, he knew the New York Times had 1st Amendment protection he didn't in London:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/19/david-miranda-schedule7-danger-reporters
So this idea of a 'secret courier' carrying stuff into the US is almost certainly rubbish, especially done by the NYT. The Guardian took its copies in around the time the story first broke - probably before, either physically or electronically (after all, its journalists would be targets after that, and they wouldn't want to lose their only copy).