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I want to propose that in order to receive any government assistance whatsoever... (Original Post) jorno67 Aug 2013 OP
Heh. Lex Aug 2013 #1
No tkmorris Aug 2013 #2
Double No mimi85 Aug 2013 #14
And how many living on government assistance don't have the proper ID? winter is coming Aug 2013 #3
they didnt need to identify themselves to receive gov benefits? Demonaut Aug 2013 #4
The new voter ID laws tend to be more stringent. winter is coming Aug 2013 #10
+1000 Downwinder Aug 2013 #16
No n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #5
Sorry, but no. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #6
Exactly! Glassunion Aug 2013 #7
No. Not voting can be, and sometimes is, an act of protest against the system. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #8
Good idea. K&R gulliver Aug 2013 #9
no for reasons listed above dembotoz Aug 2013 #11
It is just as much a civic duty to vote as it is not to vote. Glassunion Aug 2013 #12
I don't like when Repugs put conditions on receiving public assistance and I don't like when Dems do MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #13
Voting is a good thing but ignorant voting is not steve2470 Aug 2013 #15
absolutely NOT, for all the reasons listed in various posts above. niyad Aug 2013 #17
I have a counter proposal. noamnety Aug 2013 #18
There's a minor matter of the Constitution. Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #19

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
3. And how many living on government assistance don't have the proper ID?
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:08 PM
Aug 2013

Frankly, if someone doesn't want to go to the polls, it's probably better for all concerned that they not be there.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
10. The new voter ID laws tend to be more stringent.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:16 PM
Aug 2013

We have retired citizens who receive Medicare and Social Security but might not be able to vote because they no longer drive and never had birth certificates. People on Medicaid or unemployment... you're living on a small fixed income, yet you're supposed to keep your ID completely current if you want to vote.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
6. Sorry, but no.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:11 PM
Aug 2013

The right to not vote is just as important as the right to do so.

I'm all in favor of tax credits or incentives for civic education courses and other forms of participatory democracy (attending local government meetings and functions, for example), but not holding people in desperate need to that sort of obligation.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
12. It is just as much a civic duty to vote as it is not to vote.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:18 PM
Aug 2013

That's part of the problem with our current system today.

Gee... With a two party system of special interest funded elections, your only options at times are to vote for one of two assholes. Never confuse voting for the lesser of two evils as being good vote.

 

MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
13. I don't like when Repugs put conditions on receiving public assistance and I don't like when Dems do
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:29 PM
Aug 2013

either.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
15. Voting is a good thing but ignorant voting is not
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:34 PM
Aug 2013

Not in favor of this, sorry. Other posters make good points too.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
18. I have a counter proposal.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 10:27 PM
Aug 2013

How about if you're on government assistance of any sort, the costs for getting the ID you need for voting are waived? That way it's not a requirement to vote, but at least one of the obstacles is removed.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
19. There's a minor matter of the Constitution.
Sat Aug 24, 2013, 10:35 PM
Aug 2013

To be considered. You cannot force political speech like that.

Also, please consider the impact on the children of those thus punished. The children cannot vote, but you want to deprive their guardians of welfare benefits?

If it were not for my respect for the Constitution and for basic human rights, I'd propose that people who want to deprive other people (and their children) of welfare benefits because they did or said something that was not a crime but that displeased the speaker should automatically lose their SS benefits.

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